You are correct on Jobs:
http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/Steve_Jobs.php
His handlers must have told him to stop contributing to anyone. His bio admits he is a strong committed leftist.
“More, why do you refuse to consider that perhaps you might be wrong?”
BTW, wrong on what?
I admitted I was wrong, I think I gave you 25 points on how I was wrong... and I think 8 propositions to rectify that situation.
I think calling my son a thief is a bit outlandish, I think saying things to the tune of “Apple has always been open user” is rubbish, and when I dispute I’m told that I am misleading or don’t know the facts.
or that Apple doesn’t control music content. Maybe now they don’t, but it was stated that they DID. Revisionist history is a key of Apple fans. The past never exists with them, unless it is to their benefit.
Heck, I’ve even seen some Apple fanbois posting history about how Apple should control music content... as a past musician and all that. I wonder who that was...
“Some of us were there and know it first hand, not second hand from reading about it.”
Really? Where were you? What is your stake in Apple? Would you mind disclosing this great insight that you have?
So, its the word of someone “who was there”, versus every report out there. I guess I should just toss out everything published on all subjects if I cannot find such an insider like yourself to set me straight. An insider with a product to pimp. Yeah, that’ll happen.
On a lot of what you have posted on this thread. ;^)> What else ?
I wouldn't disagree with your conservative principles.
I think calling my son a thief is a bit outlandish, I think saying things to the tune of “Apple has always been open user” is rubbish, and when I dispute I’m told that I am misleading or don’t know the facts.
I never called your son a thief. I believe that ReignOfError made the comment that a kid could not build a PC computer equivalent to a $5000 MacPro with it's two six core Xeon processors (which retail for around $1200 a piece) and the high end graphics card, unless he stole them, for your quoted $800. I agree... he couldn't. At the time that was written, Esox, the kid was anonymous and you had not identified him as your son. I doubt Reign would have couched her criticism in quite those terms had she known you were referring to your kid.
or that Apple doesn’t control music content. Maybe now they don’t, but it was stated that they DID. Revisionist history is a key of Apple fans. The past never exists with them, unless it is to their benefit.
Apple lead the effort to get rid of DRM on music. Steve Jobs and iTunes broke the stranglehold the music publishers had on music distribution after they killed Napster. He found a viable way the publishers could live with digital downloads. The price they insisted on was DRM. Jobs wrote an open letter to the music industry about removing DRM and negotiated the first non-DRM music from a major label... this is established history ... Which finally opened the floodgates to all of the music publishers selling music without DRM. Apple is now trying to do the same thing to Hollywood to get the prices of movies down. . . And to remove DRM from them.
As a past musician I do believe that music should be paid for. Copyrights should be supported. I buy my music. I don't pirate. 99 cents is a fair price for a song I like and want to own and listen to and the artists should receive the reward for having done it. I get angry when my work is stolen by people who claim to like what I did but aren't willing to pay me what it's worth.
Really? Where were you? What is your stake in Apple? Would you mind disclosing this great insight that you have?
You know, esox, some of us older guys WORKED in computer tech ... I own a business that supported Windows and Mac computers since the mid 1980s. I still own it but its more of a side line now for a few die hard clients who don't want me to hand them off to younger guys. I work intimately with both systems earning my living from them. I LIVED much of this history.
My nephew (who is only a few years younger than I) was a member of the Home Brew Computer club with Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak and decided against accepting their offer of one of the first ten jobs at Apple because he didn't think it was going to go anywhere—but did wind up as the manager of the first Apple affiliate store in Berkeley selling Apple IIs—and regrets his lack of foresight to this day. He is still a friend of the Woz ... and sees Jobs occasionally.
Many of the people who were instrumental in these events, I'd call up to ask technical questions and would shoot the breeze with them and we'd talk about what was happening... So, yes. I DO know what happened. I read the primary documents. Not the second hand speculation...and certainly not the spin... And, knowing the background, I can interpret what really is going on.
Oh, and it's not me verses "every report that's out there" because I can link to reports that back up every word I've posted. . . From mainstream technical pundits and reviewers. I can prove what I post.