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To: dr_who
This issue has been beaten to death here. I will only say that in 1860, there were no clear laws on secession. Because the Constitution contains no language on the subject, it appears to me that the federal government has virtually no role in the process of secession. And because the 10th Amendment cites the idea that those powers not held by the federal government are then held by the states, I have to conclude that the power of secession is something reserved to each state government, upon a vote of the People of that state (and from whom all just powers proceed).

SC was right. Lincoln was wrong.

2 posted on 12/11/2010 11:37:17 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

I RESPECTFULLY disagree with you and EVERYONE over here who has advocated the position of the South. EVER!

Our Declaration of Independence (which ALL 13 states signed) clearly said “All men are created equal”

It was our original constitution that denied the right of votes to blacks that was in violation of the the declaratioin we OURSELVES had made.

Anything the South EVER said was bogus as it was NOT the view of its populace. It was only the views of the whites (and landowners at that).

If the South had allowed every man to vote and THEN decided to secede, I would be the single BIGGEST supporter of secession.

But instead, they denied the rights of the blacks and a fraction of the populace made the decision for others! Bull hockey! All slave owners can burn in Hell for all I care.

This is the same as I feel for abortion when someone else makes a decision for the unborn child.

ONLY GOD owns us. NOT Humans! Ever!

Sorry for the hard post but I have no sympathy for the South. They did not represent their people. Thus they were not true republics.


4 posted on 12/11/2010 12:23:41 PM PST by SoftwareEngineer
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To: ClearCase_guy
Speaking of secession, interesting take on the subject here...

Secession - A Peculiar Concept

14 posted on 12/11/2010 1:17:26 PM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, how's that Lockerbie bomber deal investigation coming along?)
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