pls post what you want dissected as most of us won't give their site a hit...
Posted on 11/28/2010 1:26:52 PM PST by Strk321
Check out this nonsense I found:
http://www.freerangelongmont.com/2010/11/28/you-might-be-a-republican-if/
Now, I've been getting some complaints about the way I'm linking stuff up, so I'll avoid inserting any commentary in this article and let all of you pick it apart. Be forewarned: There's a whole lot of distorted lies and strawmen in there.
I do this because I enjoy ripping apart liberal articles as a mental exercise.
Liberals don't deal with ideas. They deal only with self-affirmation.
Thanks. I don’t know why the site didn’t auto-link the article. It says “HTML auto-detected.”
So, c’mon. Let’s have fun demolishing this thing.
Not too much exercise in dismissing this POS. Lies, sound bites, and slogans do not an argument make.
pls post what you want dissected as most of us won't give their site a hit...
So, here’s my prepared commentary. The original material has quotes around it.
“You Might be a Republican If .
You believe George W. Bush s redistribution of middle-class tax cuts
to the top 1% of tax-payers was good for America, but Obama s plan to
return it to the middle class is socialism.”
Never happened. Obama is redistributing it to anyone that supported his campaign.
“You believe stem cells are living human beings, but thousands of Iraqi
children are expendable collateral damage.”
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We all know liberals support grinding up embryos to benefit the abortion mills.
“You believe tax cuts for billionaires is a great idea, yet you wonder
why the economy has stalled, your job just got outsourced to India,
and oil company executives receive $400,000,000.00 retirement
packages.”
BS. I don’t know a single conservative that supports this sort of thing.
“You believe the surge worked because the violence in Iraq is back to
2006 levels, which is only horrible, compared to what it was in 2007;
intolerable. Besides, Brit Hume said so.”
Can’t do a lot to reign in 12th-century savages.
“You think trial lawyers are harmful to America, yet you support
prosecuting some guy in Muncie Indiana who burned his 99 American
flag that was made in China by forced child labor.”
What, you think John Edwards and his kind are good for America? I don’t know a single conservative who thinks it’s a good idea to make American flags in China.
“You re all for the rule of law when it s applied to Bill Clinton for
lying about his infidelity, but not for prosecuting Karl Rove and
Scooter Libby for committing treason.”
Since when did Karl Rove commit treason?
“You think George W. Bush is actually a really smart guy, but his
folksy manner just makes him seem dumber than he really is.”
Subjective. How smart is Barry, considering that he went to Harvard via affirmative action?
“You believe that those privileged from birth achieve success all on
their own, and that those who are born to poverty and never have
opportunities for advancement, got what they deserved.”
Strawman. No conservative believes this.
“You believe Ronald Reagan was a great president who had complete
control of all aspects of government, but the Iran-Contra Affair was
an insignificant scandal that went on without his knowledge.”
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What would liberals say about Iran-Contra if Reagan had had a D next to his name?
“You believe Democrats tax and spend, but George W. Bush was a fiscal
conservative.”
Lie. No one claims that Bush was a fiscal conservative.
“You believe Oliver North, who was CONVICTED of perjury, obstruction of
justice, destroying evidence and accepting bribes, is a patriot. But
John Kerry, who saved a man s life while under enemy fire in Vietnam
is a coward.”
John Kerry disgraced his medals after returning home.
“You believe George W. Bush kept us safe from terror, and the failure
to prevent the 9/11 attacks were Clinton s fault.”
There were a lot of reasons 9/11 happened and no one person was entirely responsible.
“You actually believe Fox News is fair & balanced.”
Is MSNBC fair and balanced?
“You still believe Saddam had truckloads of WMDs, and that he somehow
managed to sneak them into Syria, right under our noses.”
Saddam had months to take his WMDs to Syria.
“You believe Terri Schiavo was sentient all along, and Bill Frist had
the ability to diagnose her condition by watching a 5 second video of
her sleeping.”
Only a fool would think she wasn’t conscious and aware of her surroundings.
“You re in favor of stronger prison sentences for drug users, yet your
favorite radio personality is Rush Limbaugh.”
Rush wasn’t using illegal drugs and there are too many people in prison because of the WOD.
“You complain about having to press 1 for English, yet you hire
undocumented workers to mow your lawn because they re cheaper than
hiring the kid next door.”
Undocumented workers=liberal speak for illegal immigrant. And you don’t think there was ever a Democrat who hired illegal immigrant workers? I’m not defending this sort of thing, but maybe people hire them because they’re better workers than white boys with a marijuana joint and pants down to their knees.
“Homosexuality is abhorrent to you, except when a Republican senator,
the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, and a
planted White House journalist get caught having sexual affairs with
gay men. Then you suddenly feel sorry for them.”
You’re the ones defending the gay lifestyle, not us, bub. And no conservative defended these guys.
“The war in Iraq makes perfect sense to you, but any suggestion by
Barack Obama that we target al Qaeda specifically is dangerous and
reckless.”
Strawman. Many on the right opposed invading Iraq.
“You don t mind that president Bush tortured men who were never charged
with a crime, yet you re horrified by the wrath of al Qaeda when they
capture one of our guys.”
Here we go again with Guantanamo Bay. No one was tortured there, all right?
“You believe the 1/10 of 1% of scientists who claim global warming is a
hoax, and reject the 99.9% who say it s real, because Sean Hannity and
his friends in the oil industry have convinced you that science is a
part of a greater liberal conspiracy.”
Fake scientists who are in the business of advancing left-wing agendas. Why else do they suppress any debate on AGW?
“You believe patriotism means you should support your government right
or wrong unless a Democrat s in power, then it s your patriotic duty
to call him a closet Muslim, challenge his birth certificate, expose
his sex life and impeach him.”
BS. Any patriotic American would question his government regardless of the party in power. There were many conservatives who questioned Bush’s administration.
“You re proud of your party s culture of life. Yet you support the
death penalty for minors, you believe 600,000 dead Iraqis is justified
because one of them was Saddam Hussein, and you oppose confronting the
genocide in Darfur because they don t have oil.”
So liberals are anti-war, but they want us to go to war in Darfur?
“You support prayer in school, as long as your kids aren t subjected to
Muslim prayers.”
Maybe if Muslims wouldn’t keep blowing up and killing infidels, people would not have a problem with them.
“You think Darwin s theory of evolution is a loony fairy tale, and
mankind actually began with two naked teenagers, a magic apple and a
talking snake.”
Strawman. The only people who interpret Genesis literally are a few religious groups in the South.
“You think $35 billion spent on health care for children is a waste of
taxpayer s money, but $1.7 trillion spent on a catastrophic war that
has isolated us from our allies, decimated our economy and made us
less safe was money well spent.”
Possibly because no actual HC goes to children, but a lot of that money goes to line pockets.
“You believe embargoing communist Cuba is sound foreign policy, but
trading with China is just good business.”
Get real. No one thinks trading with China is just good business.
“You believe Bill Clinton was an immoral cad, but Newt Gingrich and
Henry Hyde were faithful husbands (and Larry Craig just has a wide
stance).”
No one on the right defended Newt Gingrich and Larry Craig.
“You fervently defend the Constitution, but when president Bush got
caught monitoring 300 million phones without a warrant, politicizing
our justice system, hyping evidence for going to war and pardoning a
convicted perjurer who just happened to be on his staff, then it s
okay, because he was protecting America.”
Nonsense. Only a drugged-up liberal maniac would believe 300 million phones were monitored.
“You were outraged when a gallon of gasoline went from $1.29 to $1.40
during the two terms of the Clinton presidency, but you didn t seem to
mind when prices tripled under George W. Bush, the oil man.”
No one defended high oil prices. Another strawman.
“You were furious when Bill Clinton pardoned international commodities
trader Marc Rich, who was convicted of tax evasion, but applauded when
George W. Bush exonerated Scooter Libby for obstructing justice to
protect Dick Cheney from a treason indictment.”
I’m not familiar with these cases, so I can’t comment.
“With no evidence whatsoever, you complained of voter fraud, and
demanded that thousands of blacks be scrubbed from voting lists during
the 2004 election in Ohio, yet when Rush Limbaugh asked his audience
to illegally claim to be Democrats and vote for Hillary Clinton during
the Ohio Primary in February to stir up trouble, a FELONY, you were
okay with that.”
Since when were any blacks scrubbed from voting lists? Another lie.
“You believe Barack Obama should be held accountable for every sermon
that Jeremiah Wright ever gave, but John McCain, who sought the
endorsement of anti-Semitic, xenophobic, openly racist and homophobic
pastors should be given a pass.”
If John McCain had sat in a church for 20 years with a member of the Aryan Nation as a pastor, what would you say?
“You believe Barack Obama is either a secret Muslim, was actually born
in Kenya, and his parents forged a fake birth certificate when he was
born just in case he should ever run for president, or that his
father s nationality disqualifies his son from being president, all
because you read that on the Internet.”
Quite possibly because all the evidence indicates he was born in Kenya?
“You believe the 8 consecutive years of prosperity and strong economic
growth from 1993 2001 was due to the work of Ronald Reagan and
George H.W. Bush, but today s recession is all Clinton s and Obama s
fault.”
Strawman. There are a lot more factors than the simplistic D=good, R=bad.
“You laugh at how much better Barack Obama speaks with a TelePrompTer
than without one, yet you never mention the fact that even with a
TelePrompTer, every time George Bush opened his mouth, gibberish
tumbled out.”
Barry is a good speaker, but he still spews gibberish.
“You still believe Barack Obama has somehow succeeded in fooling every
government and independent examination with his obviously
Photoshopped documents. Instead, you rely on Internet gossip,
WorldNetDaily and Jerome Corsi as your sources for truth.”
Only a drugged-up liberal would take that fake BC seriously. Remember that the guy who originally tried to obtain his real BC was Philip Berg, a Democrat.
“Your conservative media spent more air time discussing Michelle Obama
touching the queen of England s arm than on the economy, the
environment, terrorism and health care combined.”
Lie. There was plenty of time discussing the above-mentioned issues.
“You believe that we should get out of Afghanistan because Obama is
nation building, yet for eight straight years of Bush s bumbling
incompetence there, you kept mum. Therefore, attacking Iraq makes
sense, even though they never threatened us, but finishing off the job
of finding Osama bin Laden; the terrorist who killed 3,000 Americans
Bush s original task is a dumb idea.”
We should just end all these wars and go home.
“You were furious that Barack Obama admitted in France that Americans
have occasionally been arrogant, dismissive and derisive, but you
cheered them on when Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were arrogant,
dismissive and derisive.”
I think Barry is the one who’s been arrogant, dismissive, and derisive.
“You believe that Obama s $3.6 trillion budget is an outrage, but never
once complained that George Bush turned Bill Clinton s $300 billion
surplus into a $1.3 trillion deficit. And it never once occurred to
you that Bush deliberately omitted the Iraq and Afghanistan wars from
those statistics, which means Bush s TRUE deficit was $3.1 trillion.”
Lie. Nobody defended Bush’s deficits.
“You supported Gov. Sarah Palin, partly because you believed she kept a
good Christian home. This, despite the fact that her seventeen year
old unmarried daughter was knocked up, her son was accused of
vandalizing 44 school buses (cutting the brake lines of school buses
HELLO!!?) and was given the choice of going to jail or join the
military, and Palin herself was found guilty of abusing the power of
her office. But Barack Obama can t possibly be a true Christian,
because his father was a Muslim, and his middle name is Hussein.
(Besides, he s black, and everybody knows that Jesus was a blond
haired blue eyed white man.)”
Nah, you only dislike the fact that Bristol didn’t abort her baby. As for Barry, if it has a Muslim name, it acts like a Muslim, and it sympathizes with Muslims, it IS A MUSLIM!!! Also claiming that Jesus had blonde hair and blue eyes is another strawman.
“You believe the only solution to gun violence is to make sure
everybody is armed to the teeth. That way, when some crazy person goes
on a killing spree, right-thinking people will take out the killer,
and tranquility will prevail throughout the land.”
When a drugged-up liberal or a Muslim goes on a rampage, someone’s got to take them out.
“You believe the mainstream news anchors are crazy, biased and filled
with hate, but Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity are rational, accurate and
informative.”
MSNBC, anyone?
“You defend Rush Limbaugh s right to wish for Obama to fail, and
therefore, the failure of our republic, yet you call Democrats the
blame America first crowd.”
So how again would Obama failing cause our republic to fail? Seems like the other way around.
“You claim that the economic crisis is the fault of the Democrats, but
never mention that it was the Reagan administration that massively
deregulated the banking industry in 1982, and it was Phil Gramm
McCain s choice for economic advisor who completed the task for his
pals in the banking industry in 1999.”
There were a lot more factors than the black-and-white D=Good, R=Bad involved.
“You believe the failure of the US automobile industry is primarily the
fault of the unions, and not because management of the three
corporations insisted on producing vehicles that nobody wanted. And
you re angry with the $28.00 per hour average wage of the work force,
but you believe that the multimillion dollar salaries of the men who
bankrupted the industry are perfectly reasonable.”
A lot of things have gone wrong with the auto industry, but the extreme greed of unions is a pretty significant factor.
“You believe Barack Obama is a narcissistic megalomaniac, because you
heard Glenn Beck call him that once, but Beck himself is a humble man,
concerned only for your welfare (brought to you by Goldline!).”
Quite possibly because Obama is a narcissistic megalomaniac.
“You believe anybody who doesn t subscribe to Orly Taitz birther
movement is a RINO, and those who do, are carrying the torch of
Reaganism.”
Again, Philip Berg is not a Republican.
you found any evidence of logic, reason, or critical thinking on that page.
No, I did not read them all. I try not to annoy myself more than is absolutely necessary.
This is the one I find most particularly irritating: You believe that those privileged from birth achieve success all on their own, and that those who are born to poverty and never have opportunities for advancement, got what they deserved.
That one seems to be predicated on the belief that everyone who is successful has been "privileged from birth" while those "born to poverty" are stuck there forever. That is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!
I am not on anybody's millionaire list, but I am considerably higher up the ladder than where I was born. (I was, in fact, "born to poverty.") I didn't get much, if anything, in the way of government handouts, and the biggest "hand up" I ever got was in the form of a scholarship awarded by one of those nasty capitalistic profit-driven private sector companies (for which I will forever be grateful). I firmly believe that many people don't lack the opportunity for advancement; they turn their backs on opportunities because they come disguised as work.
I also know I am by no means the only person in the US in my position.
I reject the premise that being born with a particular skin pigmentation dictates whether or not one was "born to privilege" and has the opportunity to succeed!
Stepping off the soap box now!
“That one seems to be predicated on the belief that everyone who is successful has been “privileged from birth” while those “born to poverty” are stuck there forever. That is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!”
This sort of thing hasn’t really existed in the Western world since pre-1789 Europe, back when one’s birth did determine social standing. One of the original purposes of the United States was to have a society with no landed nobility where anyone could become successful.
Heck, many prominent families end up falling by the wayside in a few generations. As an example, the Kennedys were riding high for a while, but they appear to be on their way down to oblivion.
“I reject the premise that being born with a particular skin pigmentation dictates whether or not one was “born to privilege” and has the opportunity to succeed!”
Obama got everything he has because of affirmative action and guilty white liberals.
He, however, is hardly representative of the majority of black people in this country. His background and upbringing were quite different.
I have, however, been told to my face that I was lying when I stated that I was born to poverty and grew up poor. There are those who believe that white skin automatically equates to position and privilege. I have been told "You don't know what it was like" by people who had more prosperous childhoods than I did, simply because of a difference in skin pigmentation.
“I think there may have been more involved in Obama’s rising to the Presidency than affirmative action; I believe he was groomed for it and had considerable influence behind him most of his life. As for the guilty white liberals, I agree.”
Well, yeah. He went to high school in Hawaii where local communists decided that they found the perfect guy to raise up. Heck, just his name alone made white liberals instantly kneel before him.
Michael Savage (who was a victim of affirmative action) has discussed this at length on a couple different shows. He says that he knew some of those communists when he lived in Hawaii and what they were about.
“He, however, is hardly representative of the majority of black people in this country. His background and upbringing were quite different.”
Totally. Most American blacks share a common history. Their ancestors were brought here from West Africa as slaves, they lived through segregation for 100 years after the Civil War, and they developed a unique culture.
Obama has direct connections to Africa, which is not the case with most American blacks. He’s also of East African descent, which as I said above American blacks usually are not. He also traveled and lived all over the world in his childhood, which isn’t typically of very many people of any race.
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