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Electoral college math for Sarah Palin (she is very electable)
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Posted on 11/26/2010 10:58:03 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative

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To: Lib-Lickers 2

Replace with DeMInt, and I’ll like it.


121 posted on 11/27/2010 8:43:26 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: SideoutFred

What this means is the same thing we have heard since 1988. We can only win with RINO candidates. They yap to us, listen and follow us, we know what we are doing. You can’t win being conservative, you have to mimic your opponent and then when in office maybe we can do some conservative things-—MAYBE, but don’t count on it. We have to appear bi-partisan and surrender our ideas to be liked and accepted by our opponents.

We have had one moderate candidate after another and what have we got? In 1992, 1996 and 2008 our asses were thoroughly kicked. When we did win what did we get? More taxes in some cases and in all cases more spending and mushy moderate bilge.

Should we suck it up and again listen you to and go balls to the wall for the likes of Willard Rommney? And again get more mushy moderate crap and the conservatives can go sit in the back of the bus, but oh yeah, keep sending in your money and getting out there and working for us. And of course the all appropriate response from the RINO’s and party boys will be, but if you don’t vote for us, you get more: obama, hillary, etc...

We are trapped as conservatives. The moderates and party boys who are really big gov. spending liberals at heart will cut and run if you don’t do it their way, assuring a democrat victory and if you vote with them the democrats still get the victory, only their ideas move forward at a slower and cheaper pace, but they are advanced, are they not?


122 posted on 11/27/2010 8:45:57 AM PST by sarge83
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
if you study Palin’s record. she is not “ultra conservative”

Yep, I argued earlier this year about her stand on her enacted state oil windfall profit's tax. Seems her supporters just couldn't come to grasp with how a "windfall" and "tax" are defined.

123 posted on 11/27/2010 8:46:10 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: SideoutFred

Are you talking about social issues ?

But when I look at Palin’s record, I don’t see someone way far to the right. She is not to the right of Reagan.


124 posted on 11/27/2010 8:46:47 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: SideoutFred

Are you talking about social issues ?

But when I look at Palin’s record, I don’t see someone way far to the right. She is not to the right of Reagan.


125 posted on 11/27/2010 8:46:53 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: JLS
I also think NH could return to the GOP in 2012.

Not if NH dems choose the GOP nominee...they chose McCain in the primary; voted Obama in the general. Conservatives are fleeing NH right and left...

126 posted on 11/27/2010 8:52:58 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SideoutFred
CA is a perfect example! When McClintock ran, the CA R's did everything to get folks not to vote for him.

I wonder what would have been different if we'd had McClintock instead of Ahnold?

Even now, Duf Sundheim is calling for more compromise.

CA wasn't always like this and needs to be held up as an example of what will happen to all states should they go with the "compromising candidate" IMO

127 posted on 11/27/2010 8:53:54 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: deport

For those that may want to play around with the EC votes the following link is to an interactive US map. The map allows one to choose the 10 census applied, and select a varying combination of states to start with such as 08 acutal, close, very competitive, etc and then choose what the remaining states will do. As each choice is made the total EC vote total changes.

http://www.270towin.com/


128 posted on 11/27/2010 8:55:48 AM PST by deport
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To: grey_whiskers
I did not throw my vote away. If my state had a provision for None Of The Above, I would have voted for that. I wanted to register my discontent without voting for Obama and Barr was the only choice available. In close races, some third parties can affect the outcome in one or two states so that the major parties have to weigh the impact of these numbers.

McGovern, Goldwater and others have built up grassroots support and failed in the general election. Sarah Palan's grassroot support comes mainly from the flyover country. Within the flyover country there are some likely conflicts like ethanol fuel versus fossil fuel.

129 posted on 11/27/2010 9:21:48 AM PST by monocle
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative; All
Okay, I read the thread, and what I see is a collection of posters who at worst are RINOs, and who at best are conservatives who seem to be afraid of the media, and their own conservative shadows.

It seems to me that there are still a good number of posters who think that the liberal media is still king, that Obama is still liked, that polls can't be corrupted, and that we are some how still stuck back in the nineties when our candidates were captives of the liberal media.

Open your eyes folks. Times are changing. Let Palin run. Let her get her message out There is absolutely nothing radical about her message and there is absolutely nothing strange about her persona.

She would run on common sense ideas. She would run on originalist ideas. Most Americans support those ideas, most Americans don't support the freakish Marxist in Chief, most Americans don't trust the media, and most Americans are plugged into alternative information sources. Certainly a majority of folks in North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Indiana and Ohio are no longer supporters of the freakish Marxist, Barack Hussein Obama.

Look, if you think there are other good candidates out there in the shadows, then fine, but that raises two questions.

Why has that alternative "good" candidate not been out there fighting everyday over the last two years while our country is being destroyed?

Why make your decision for that other candidate and/or against Palin this early in the election cycle?

I haven't.

130 posted on 11/27/2010 10:04:29 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: monocle
Sarah Palan's rassroot support comes mainly from the flyover country. Within the flyover country there are some likely conflicts like ethanol fuel versus fossil fuel.

Only brain-dead morons want to vote for Sarah Palan.

You must be a Murcowskeee supporter.

Cheers!

131 posted on 11/27/2010 10:13:34 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
I presently have no dog in this race and will constantly assess the status as to who has the best chance of beating Obama.

BTW When people start reading minds and calling names, I can only assume logic has failed them.

132 posted on 11/27/2010 10:25:26 AM PST by monocle
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To: grey_whiskers

I love you dude. LOL


133 posted on 11/27/2010 10:31:57 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Pure conjecture and nonsense from one suffering PDS. Romney, Huck, or Sarah...take your pick. I am going with Sarah or 3rd party.


134 posted on 11/27/2010 10:36:04 AM PST by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Yep, I agree, Troll there.
135 posted on 11/27/2010 10:46:26 AM PST by redshawk (Hey 0Dumbo, I'm scratching my nose too, and not with my index finger!)
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To: monocle
How long have you been on the internet?

I even *bolded* your typo, and you still looked past the point.

Time to take your sarcasm meter back into the shop; it's overdue for maintenance.

Cheers!

136 posted on 11/27/2010 11:08:39 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

You are right about Reagan. I guess i just can’t get beyond her resignation.


137 posted on 11/27/2010 11:30:03 AM PST by Rippin
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To: JApost

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138 posted on 11/27/2010 12:33:28 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Jim Noble
"Obama" would be in custody five minutes after issuing such "orders".

Just like Hitler was?
ZERO would not issue such an order until all his ducks were in a row. Ultra leftists of his ilk are motivated by one purpose ... acquisition of power. They now have it for the first time in American history. Do you really think they will let silly things like following the law, elections, the economy, the will of the people, a bickering infighting legislative branch, a dotering pontificating judicial branch ruin their opportunity to sieze power permanently? Especially when the framwork for such a siezure is already in place and has been used hundreds of times in the past century ... Executive Order.

See:
Blueprint for Dictatorship

Post #14

ZERO's plan will be far more detailed than the rough outline from this earlier post. No one will be able to get close enough to him to "take him into custody". He'll have his greatly expanded and trained personal security force, the TSA Gestapo, ready to protect him. Loyal generals and loyal subordinate staff officers ready to "replace" disloyal generals will also be prepared in advance. This will all be done in the name of defending the nation just as it was in 1934 Germany. Opponents will be marginalized as aiding and abeting terrorism just as Hitler's opponents were marginalized as aiding and abeting Jewish and international monetary interests widely considered to be anti-Germany.

I believe in American exceptionalism. But that doesn't mean such an above described fate can't happen here. There were millions of truly moral and good Germans in 1933. Most had voted against Hitler but a determined fully involved minority will always control the half hearted attention of the majority. See this snippet from Wikipedia:

Having become Chancellor, Hitler foiled all attempts by his opponents to gain a majority in parliament. Because no single party could gain a majority, Hitler persuaded President Hindenburg to dissolve the Reichstag again. Elections were scheduled for early March, but on 27 February 1933, the Reichstag building was set on fire.[72] Since a Dutch independent communist was found in the building, the fire was blamed on a communist plot. The government reacted with the Reichstag Fire Decree of 28 February which suspended basic rights, including habeas corpus. Under the provisions of this decree, the German Communist Party (KPD) and other groups were suppressed, and Communist functionaries and deputies were arrested, forced to flee, or murdered. Campaigning continued, with the Nazis making use of paramilitary violence, anti-communist hysteria, and the government's resources for propaganda. On election day, 6 March, the NSDAP increased its result to 43.9% of the vote, remaining the largest party, but its victory was marred by its failure to secure an absolute majority, necessitating maintaining a coalition with the DNVP.[73]

Although Executive Order is unconstitutional, by tradition and usage it provides the framework for an immediate takeover. The nation is awash in a pool of gasoline. All that is needed is a spark and the dictatorship begins.

139 posted on 11/27/2010 1:28:41 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: DWar
He'll have his greatly expanded and trained personal security force, the TSA Gestapo, ready to protect him.

Compare and contrast:

You've gotten a little carried away.

140 posted on 11/27/2010 1:42:41 PM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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