Posted on 11/23/2010 10:14:59 PM PST by Patrick1
Sarah Palin seems to be the favorite of the majority of Free Republic members. I still have not made up my mind about her. But if she is the consevative movement's choice to take on the disaster of Obama who has gone from The Messiah to the Mess then there are things that she will need to overcome to get 50% plus one of the American people's vote in 2012. I've listed the ones I hope her supporters can address here because failure to take these issues on will result in certain defeat.
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The rationale has to come from Palin, herself. You won't find it here, or anywhere at present, because it doesn't exist. She will (or won't) create the rationale by her demeanor and the seriousness with which she tackles the big issues of the day. If all she ever does is run around throwing red meat to people who already support her, she will be Pat Buchanan in a skirt.
Smartest thing anyone said all night.
HUH?
Apparently this thread is frequented by poeple unable to succinctly articulate cogent thoughts and so rely on nonsensical, irrelevant and inapplicable analogies.
Here is what I hope some FReeper can offer so I can either save myself the effort of doing it myself or that I can use as the basis for further research of my own.
What are the top ten (I'll settle for five) reasons that an independent voter will be attracted to the candidacy of Sarah Palin?
In a nation-wide referendum?
You seem to make a lot of comments, but don’t have answers to questions you are asked.
Sleep well.
Oh really?! So let's get this straight. The woman decides to run for governor of her home state. She goes out, campaigns, makes campaign promises, convinces a majority to vote for her, gets elected. Then oooops, two years into a four-year term she ups and quits. If that isn't breaking her commitment to the people of her state, then I'd like to hear your explanation of exactly what it is.
Yes, I do.
And I also know that one of Palin’s touted achievements is the trimming away of unnecessary/non-constitutional portions of Alaska’s governance.
That, in conjunction with the AG’s ability to prosecute [or cause the prosecution of] government agents and/or agencies, seems a good fit to me.
Or, I suppose a “Constitutional Extremist” like Ron Paul, who correctly asserts that the War on Drugs has no Constitutional authority could be better. {Remember, we had to amend the Constitution to prohibit, nationally, the drug ‘alcohol.’}
SO TRUE
“She is vetted”
She was vetted by McCain, not conservatives. Let’s see how she will handle the primary debates.
“Sarah Palin has two years of major elective office - which is the only type of office that counts for the presidency. There has to be at least 50,000 towns in America with a larger population than Wasilla, AK.”
I would call being Governor of the entire state of Alaska way bigger than Mayor of Wasilla.
Why did you neglect to mention that, among other offices she’s held?
Your keyboard to God's ear. I see the TSA enhanced security measures as the beginning of breaking the American morale to be submissive to all the government asks in the name of 'anti-terror'.
TSA is the American Gestapo.
The only credential Romney have is Romneycare (negative) and balancing the budget of some sporting event. Sarah negotiated the largest oil pipleine in US history, Cut government spending by $1 billion, whistle blower against corruption in her own party...
Women just voted republican for the first time ever, Because of Palin!
Not saying it could fly, but what’s else could he say?
Assuming you’re serious about this:
1) Quitting as governor after only two years. (Ronald Reagan served eight)
If governor were her ONLY experience in government then one could be worried about her lack of experience but she actually has more executive experience at more levels of government than all the other contenders on both sides.
They reasons WHY she quit are explained over and over again on every thread about her. The same people bring it up in every thread over and over again. No matter how much it’s explained it’s not going to change anything for them. To find the reason just look at just about any other thread about her on FR. It doesn’t even have to be about her running for president. It could be anything from what she would name a new puppy to threads about her daughter on dancing with the stars. Do a search. Some of the research you can do yourself, right? That’s a pretty good idea for anyone who wants to form their own ideas.
2) The normal perception of any conservative by the MSM that she is stupid.
The MSM loses credibility everyday. She has done an excellent job doing an end-run around the press. Her facebook posts and “tweets” get talked about everywhere. The woman says jump and the press asks “how high”. They may talk down about her opinions but in order to discuss them they have to say what those opinions are. Since her POV mirrors the common sense values and positions of the majority of the country what the press thinks is irrelevant.
FOX is becoming more and more important (and more watched) everyday. She’s on quite a lot voicing her opinion about how she would handle various situations. Also, people remember how the they were duped by the press in their drooling obsession with getting Obama elected. We’re all suspicious now. Conservative candidates won handily this last election. She was at the forefront. People know how successful she was.
3) No history of statements on public policy issues prior to 2008.
Not true. You’d have to go research some of her service in Alaska. She’s especially well informed about energy policy and energy independence. Besides, how many governors make broad statements about “public policy” beyond how it applies to their state? Does it really matter how long she’s been making these statements as long as she’s made them and they’re the right ones?
4) Overexposure that often appears unpresidential.
Overexposure is a matter of opinion, I guess so I won’t deal with that. However, I would ask what’s unpresidential? Who decides? Does Obama act presidential? Romney? Bush (any of them)? McCain? How has that perfect presidential appearance worked out for the American people so far? Was Bedtime for Bonzo presidential? Or Hellcat’s of the Navy? Or how about Lincoln’s journey to the White House? Teddy Roosevelt didn’t exactly have a prim and proper Ivy League ascension either. I think much of the country is pretty fed up with politics as usual. Probably why so many unpolished first-timers won in the midterms.
5) No political base either regionally or politically. (Obama had blacks and college kids for example, Reagan had men. Obama had Illinois and California, Reagan had California, the West and South)
And you know this because? Perhaps her base is wider than those groups. She seems to do okay in polls. And for the record Reagan’s negatives were high too so that argument is kinda ridiculous. And there’s quite a bit of time left to build a base.
6) Appeal to independents, in 2010 independents left Obama for anyone else, will they do the same in 2012 if Palin is the nominee?
Well, who would’ve thought so many “conservative” candidates would have appealed to the independents this time? We’re a center-right conservative country. There aren’t as many squishy middle independents as everyone thinks. Remember, Obama with help from the press, pretended to be at least center, if not center-right on many issues.
None of us are Mother Dora so predicting the future is pretty hard. She needs to make her case in the primaries and then if she wins in the general. Personally, I think people are tired (and even suspicious) of the polished, typical, elitist politician and are looking for someone more like “us”. Again, the last midterms when many of us flyover folks were elected is a pretty good indication of where the country is right now.
7) What is her big issue and how does she explain it? (I don’t think the I’m not Obama will work for her or anyone else all by itself.)
What the hell was Obama’s big issue? Why does she need one? I’ve heard her talk about energy independence, American exceptionalism, restoring the US to our #1 place in the world, sound fiscal policy, securing the border, repealing health care, immigration, etc. Honestly, if you haven’t heard her speak about these things or read some of her writings then, with all due respect, you really need to do some of your own research.
In past elections have you relied on everyone else to tell you about the candidates or did you do your own research as well as considering the opinions of others? Her books, facebook pages, FOX news appearances, speech transcripts are available (do a google search). That way you won’t be overly influenced by those who think she’d be the greatest president since Reagan or those who never have a good thing to say about her. After that, if you don’t think she’s the right candidate support the one you think is. You need to convince (or not) yourself. Don’t expect others to your work for you.
Cindie
“Woman. Mom. Outsider. Attractive. What more do you need? “
please tell me you’re joking
There's not much left to work with when you b!tch about being refered a person's own written answers to the questions you're asking...
Ronld Reagan Never went on conservative hating shows like msnbc/
Romney could say he was proud of his work on Romneycare? A true conservative will not pander to what the liberal want. Theres a reason why we are conservatives, its because we believe our way help the poor better
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