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1 posted on 11/18/2010 9:45:05 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

Sorry I forgot the vanity tag


2 posted on 11/18/2010 9:47:16 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

Why do you have to respond to some a$$hat who screams at you and calls you names? Is he your supervisor? If not, ignore him. Nothing you say is going to change his mind or bring clarity to his thought processes.


3 posted on 11/18/2010 9:47:33 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: surroundedbyblue
My understanding is that it shifted the burden from the accuser proving that pay was unfair to requiring the employer to prove that their pay policies were non-discriminatory to women.

And you could probably predict what would happen: employers would have to jump through endless hoops to do so.

4 posted on 11/18/2010 9:48:29 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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Well, in the first place, it’s an imaginary problem. Women and men earn the same, at the same education and experience levels. In fact, the scale is tilting slightly in favor of women.

However, if you quit work for 10 years to have a baby and stay home with it, your experience level doesn’t match that of the guy who kept working for those 10 years, so you don’t get paid as much.

Simple as that. Childless women earn the same as men.


5 posted on 11/18/2010 9:49:23 AM PST by Xenalyte (Pablo is very wily.)
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Explain to him that equality is a fairy tale made up by leftists to grow government at the expense of just about everything that makes a civilization function.


7 posted on 11/18/2010 9:51:06 AM PST by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Has your coworker read the bill or is he just acting like a congressman and talking about legislation without reading it?


8 posted on 11/18/2010 9:51:32 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Women belong behind a vacuum cleaner. They should not be paid the same as a man. Pregnant, doing the dishes and taking care of the house is all they need to be worried about. Seriously... /s



9 posted on 11/18/2010 9:52:46 AM PST by dubie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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The Paycheck Fairness Act is as much about Fairness as the Healthcare bill is about health. The health care bill is about control - so is the paycheck fairness act.


12 posted on 11/18/2010 10:00:37 AM PST by nomobs (The lesser of two evils is still evil)
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The 77% of Income Fallacy

15 posted on 11/18/2010 10:06:33 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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The simple reason to oppose this law is that Hilda Solis, Labor Secretary, is pushing it. Read up on Hilda (democrat, CA) and you’ll know what I’m referring to.


20 posted on 11/18/2010 10:58:47 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

The name itself gives it away.

Paycheck... The paycheck is a contract between party A and party B. If either party A or B feels the contract is violated, then A or B may make use of the government to properly be an honest broker in adjudicating this dispute. This is obviously not the case here because this is a legislative Act. See below.

Fairness... In days of old, this term meant that party A, holding power, dispensed this power over subordinate parties, B, C, D, etc., based on a reasonable combination of merit and Godly mercy. Today, fairness instead means that party A, holding power achieved by granting favor to voting constituencies, dispenses this power to parties B, C, D, etc. based on social fashion and the concomitant ability to hold and grow A’s political power. In other words, fairness = favoritism.

Act.... An Act is a piece of legislation which dispenses power. It is not a mechanism by which the government comes to act as an honest broker between parties A and B during their contract dispute. It is instead a mechanism where government PREEMPTIVELY anticipates these disputes, and shows favoritism by dispensing power to one class of party over another, PRIOR to their being any contract disputes.

Ergo, the Paycheck Fairness Act almost certainly is an attempt by a political party to dispense power to favored constituency classes, regardless of real merit, regardless of actual contract dispute, and not with Godliness but with the pretentious ostentation of a faux God, in order to grow a political constituency by the transfer of wealth and property and labor amongst parties B, C, D, etc.


21 posted on 11/18/2010 11:04:52 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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Even though it sometimes seems so, we do not have slavery in America anymore. No one is forced to accept a wage to perform a function. Any man or woman is free to decline a job if they feel they aren't being paid enough.

My operation provides thousands of job offers per year. I always chuckle when someone balks at a salary indignantly. Fine, move along. What keeps me honest? If I don't pay fairly, I can't hire the right people. And it certainly doesn't do me any favors to have inequities among staff; it may be poor form to share compensation information, but everyone does it eventually, and if unreasonable disparities exist, strife beckons.

22 posted on 11/18/2010 11:05:37 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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I remember this from the 1970's feminist ERA. Basically, the government would define certain jobs as being 'pink collar' jobs, ie, teacher, nurse, administrative assistant, and certain jobs 'blue collar'. Then someone would decide what pink collar jobs were equal to the same blue collar jobs, and require companies to pay pink collar and blue collar employees the same amount. This was rightly seen as a regulatory nightmare. Who decides what a pink collar job is, or what blue collar job (if any) is similar.

The twist now is that people can file complaints with the department of gender equity or whatever and they will sue the company in question for noncompliance.

23 posted on 11/18/2010 11:33:14 AM PST by sportutegrl
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