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Go to church, meet an atheist
Isthmus ^ | 11/11/10 | Bill Lueders

Posted on 11/15/2010 3:20:59 PM PST by chickadee

Esbensen, 53, who was ordained as a Unitarian Universalist minister in 1996 and recently became head of a Madison congregation, does not believe in God or life after death. She calls herself a "humanist atheist." She thinks belief in deity has arguably done more to hurt than help the world.

"People who do not believe in God are actually kinder, gentler people," she says. A personal belief in God, for instance, was not needed for Esbensen to comfort the dying woman in Minnesota, to "say what she needed to hear."

This fall, Esbensen became minister of the Prairie Unitarian Universalist Society, 2010 Whenona Dr., near South Midvale and the Beltline. She splits her time between there and Lake Country Unitarian Universalist Church in Hartland, about 40 miles west of Milwaukee, where she's been a minister since 2009.

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TOPICS: Humor; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: atheist; god; jeremiahwright; milwaukee; obamasnextchurch; unitarian; wisconsin
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Esbensen has found acceptance among fellow Unitarians, where humanists are a known quantity. But people from other faiths, when they learn she's an atheist, are often "a little puzzled and concerned." Most tragically, when she became a minister she lost her best friend, who felt this was not an appropriate role for a nonbeliever.

"That is so arrogant," clucks Esbensen. "There can be a lot of arrogance attached to people who believe in God."

You can't make this stuff up.

1 posted on 11/15/2010 3:21:06 PM PST by chickadee
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To: chickadee

I once had a Presbyterian minister tell me that 70% of ministers admitted they did not believe Jesus is the Son of God.

Of course the Unitarians take it to a whole new level.


2 posted on 11/15/2010 3:24:36 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: chickadee
"People who do not believe in God are actually kinder, gentler people," she says.

Yeah, like Joe Stalin, Fidel Castro, and Kim Jong-il.

3 posted on 11/15/2010 3:25:13 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: driftdiver

I know a Unitarian. I couldn’t believe that they include Wicca, among other things, in their “church”.

Unitarianism is for people who want an excuse to dress up on Sunday.


5 posted on 11/15/2010 3:27:13 PM PST by chickadee
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To: chickadee

Unitarian Universalist... This explains everything. This is the kingdom of RELATIVISM. I’m ok...you’re ok. My truth is fine, so is your truth, even if it is diametrically opposed to my truth. There is NO objective truth.

Unitarian Universalist: the epitome of “supreme lack of logic.”

Pray for these people...that their minds may become clear and unclouded.


6 posted on 11/15/2010 3:27:46 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: chickadee
What do you get when you cross a Unitarian with a Jehovah's Witness?

Someone who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.

7 posted on 11/15/2010 3:28:01 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: chickadee

The UU’s are a bunch of yo-yos.

IIRC, I think Walter Mondale’s dad, who was a UU minister, was one of the signers of the first Humanist Manifesto.

It’s a church for people who don’t what the word church means.


8 posted on 11/15/2010 3:29:57 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: chickadee

Pete Stark, mentally ill Demonrat congressman from California, is an Atheist and Unitarian Universalist.


9 posted on 11/15/2010 3:29:59 PM PST by magellan
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To: chickadee

I’ve heard Unitarians complain that there was too much talk about God in church.


10 posted on 11/15/2010 3:29:59 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: F15Eagle
Most do not accept nor believe the basic fundamentals of the Gospel.

Then what's the point? Esbenson's best friend (who dumped her) had it right - minister is not an appropriate career for an atheist.
11 posted on 11/15/2010 3:30:21 PM PST by chickadee
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To: chickadee

This is not a church, it is a tax status.


12 posted on 11/15/2010 3:31:12 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: chickadee

You know I just recently talked to someone who aquainted me with the whole goings on of Madyln Murray O’hair, prob one of the most famous atheists and an extremely vile person who got prayer taken out of school.

Honestly, WHY did they listen to one woman, instead of the majority of the public?

I mean, since prayer has been taken out of school, does anybody notice the country is getting better?


13 posted on 11/15/2010 3:31:34 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: tbpiper

Wonderful! Thanks for the laugh.

This woman is a “minister” at two churches. What am I missing?


14 posted on 11/15/2010 3:31:56 PM PST by chickadee
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To: chickadee

Today’s Sermon:

There’s No God, No Afterlife, Nothing Really Matters, It’s all going to die or be destroyed someday

Talk about something to give your life meaning, go to an “atheist pastor”!


15 posted on 11/15/2010 3:32:45 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: chickadee

“Unitarian Universalist minister”

Would it matter if she believed in God?


16 posted on 11/15/2010 3:33:01 PM PST by pallis
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To: angryoldfatman

“UU” sounds a lot like yoyo.


17 posted on 11/15/2010 3:33:14 PM PST by chickadee
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To: chickadee

Almost forgot. Obama’s atheist mother, communist grandfather, and typical white grandmother were Unitarian Universalists when they lived in Seattle.


18 posted on 11/15/2010 3:34:10 PM PST by magellan
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To: magellan
Obama’s atheist mother, communist grandfather, and typical white grandmother were Unitarian Universalists when they lived in Seattle.

Then skipping on over to Rev. Wright's "church" would have been easy.
19 posted on 11/15/2010 3:36:14 PM PST by chickadee
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To: pallis

It seems like a lot of atheists and progressives spend a lot of their lives thinking about who they dislike and ways to disenfranchise and mock those people that are not like them.


20 posted on 11/15/2010 3:38:00 PM PST by omega4179 (Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius)
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