[editor-surveyor]

> “anyone that has ever flown out of John Wayne airport (SNA) knows that because of the local noise abatement rules, the airlines have to take off at a much steeper climb angle and this is probably responsible for the trail.”

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Actually, takeoff fron J Wayne involves a burst of max acceleration to reach a sustainable glide velocity, followed by a closed throttle glide over the residential area (silent) then normal flight resumes.

It couldn’t have been a contrail, because if it were, then every jet that flew through the area would have left a trail too, but there were none that day. Trails are caused by extreme cold damp air, and they affect all planes flying through the cold air mass.

[aruanan]

It couldn’t have been a contrail, because if it were, then every jet that flew through the area would have left a trail too, but there were none that day. Trails are caused by extreme cold damp air, and they affect all planes flying through the cold air mass.

Are you talking about what was seen out over the Pacific heading toward California? Funny that the same flight at the same time on the next day resulted in the same phenomenon.

[Osage Orange]

I read the other day that J. Wayne airport is one of the worst airports according to airline pilots...for landing and take-offs.

I flew into J. Wayne a couple years ago....and I didn't like it. And I was just along for the ride. : )