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Exploding the “That Wasn’t A Missile” Myth
FreeRepublic ^ | November 10, 2010 | Gargantua

Posted on 11/10/2010 12:45:55 PM PST by Gargantua

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To: Gargantua

“Right, I’m a “loon” with a “lame assed” post...
...which your most recent reply to was reply number three-hundred-ninety-seven (397). And counting”

Ok, my bad. You are a loon, the grammar police, and a stalker. Thanks for informing me on how many things I’ve commented on. I had no idea.


401 posted on 11/11/2010 12:13:46 PM PST by Wee-Weed Up
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To: daisy mae for the usa
WHY SEIZE THE VIDEO?

That is a very good question. First I would like verification that they did seize it. I have only seen one unsourced post say that it was. Assuming it was it clearly says they have doubts and want to examine it closely. If they have doubts that says a lot of things. Some very worrisome.

Something did catch my eye when looking at still pics on the CBS site—the last pic, I think #13, has captured a blue line appearing to be in the same trajectory as the “contrail.” What is that?

I saw that and I don't know. One FReeper has a theory about it here and has been asked to clarify some points about it here. No reply so far.

If that is the object’s left over true path, wouldn’t that angle to the ground be measurable?

Only very roughly if at all. There are too many unknowns. Primarily the exact position of the line in the sky assuming it can be reasonably established that it is a remnant of the flight. Position and angle of the camera that took the pic.

402 posted on 11/11/2010 12:48:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Wee-Weed Up
I forgive you, and I'll honestly pray for you. You're a decent person, you've just had some bad breaks, and some despicable examples set for you.

I'm no stalker. You're the one assaulting me with unprovoked ad hominem. You wrote to me first, remember? Your first script to me was an umprovoked insult. The written record is right here, in this thread. Black and white.

Have a warm and Happy Thanksgiving. You are loved.

;-/

403 posted on 11/11/2010 2:25:24 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: tuckrdout
I"If you look at 26 seconds, you can see the F-16 heading for the thing...so, I would say they were NOT caught off guard."

I'm pretty sure they scramble an F-16 to meet Flight 808 from Hawai'i every day.

Well... maybe not. LMAO!

That some people here still believe it was an eastbound jet (when the government that they trust for virtually nothing else is the only source of this fabrication!) is beyond irrational. Lt. General McInerny says "...definitely a missile..." and it's "just another opinion."

This is not "being fooled." This is a "sticking your head in the sand" equivalent form of abject, quivering cowardice and snivelling, mewling denial. I cannot adequately express how it turns my stomach. There was a time when "being American" meant something worth saying.

Hell, the snake eater who told me to "resist authority" is willfully sucking up the Gummint lie on this one. Go figure. Maybe he got hard really up for money and had to sell a kidney... and his spine.

But hey, to each his own, right?

;-\

404 posted on 11/11/2010 2:49:39 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: Gargantua

“I forgive you, and I’ll honestly pray for you.”

I never asked for your forgiveness or your prayers.


405 posted on 11/11/2010 3:13:41 PM PST by Wee-Weed Up
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To: TigersEye

Thanks. I’ll try to find a source for that seizure info.


406 posted on 11/11/2010 3:52:24 PM PST by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Gargantua

Flight Tracker is not the government. The data is there, the US flight was there, it landed in PHX about an hour after this, that is a fact, there is no gray area on that.

I notice that no one has an answer for the lack of an ionized gas cloud that would be there if it was a rocket. I notice that no one has an answer for no one N or S of where the contrail was has reported it.

Contrails happen, weather happens, optical illusions happen, there was no missile and there is not one scintilla of proof from any one that there was a missile, versus a whole pile of factual data showing that it was an airliner.


407 posted on 11/11/2010 5:42:10 PM PST by Sto Zvirat
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To: Gargantua
Learn some prerpective, Dittz.

I have the perspective down very well. Enjoy your tin foil and your childish insults.

Free Republic should be beyond this foolish 'Truther' kind of irraltionalsim.

408 posted on 11/11/2010 6:29:54 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: justa-hairyape
That car is traveling uphill and the contrail goes behind a relatively close tall mountain.

Relatively close? Out West, you can see mountains from the highway for 50 or even more miles depending on the location and the height of the mountain.

Looking out at the 'flat' ocean from the beach with the curvature of the earth, the horizon is something less than 10 miles away. A passenger jet covers 10 miles in 2 or 3 minutes.

Seeing contrails like that is not at all unusual.

409 posted on 11/11/2010 6:45:04 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: Ditto
"...irraltionalsim."

Irrationality. You meant to say "irrationality.

"Irrationalism" is a philosophy term; a late-19th-, early 20th-century philosophical fad that purported to improve man’s grasp of "life" by magnifying it beyond the rational to its more grand (or "aggrandized," as in "a contrived improvement" depending on your perspective...) dimensions.

Dittz.

;-/

410 posted on 11/11/2010 7:05:23 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: Ditto
"...irraltionalsim."

Irrationality. You meant to say "irrationality."

"Irrationalism" is a philosophy term; a late-19th-, early 20th-century philosophical fad that purported to improve man’s grasp of "life" by magnifying it beyond the rational to its more grand (or "aggrandized," as in "a contrived improvement" depending on your perspective...) dimensions.

Dittz.

;-/

411 posted on 11/11/2010 7:05:55 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: Wee-Weed Up
"I never asked for your forgiveness or your prayers."

See how easy it is to be humble? Well done.

;-/

412 posted on 11/11/2010 7:09:10 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: Sto Zvirat
So why was there no "contrail" from the F-16 scrambled to check out the "jet"? You can spew all you want, you fool nobody when what you're asking them is to not believe their lying eyes.

You really need to work on your deception technique, or they will fire you.

;-\

413 posted on 11/11/2010 7:12:45 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: Gargantua

Where is your proof that there was a F-16 scrambled? Got documentation? I’ve flown from Hawaii to PHX about 50 times, in 757-200 aircraft we come back along that exact path every time.

I worked in the industry have seen dozens of contrails that look just like that. Again, answer me this: Why no ionized gas cloud? In an actual launch there is a glowing gas cloud, easily visible after sunset. Where are the reports of this?

Also, there were many aircraft in the area with LAX, ONT, SNA, LGB and BUR, where are the pilots reporting this launch?

Its contrail, and you have zero proof, and there is piles of proof against you. Such kook-farts from the paranoid crowd.


414 posted on 11/11/2010 7:19:18 PM PST by Sto Zvirat
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To: Ditto
Relatively close?

Yes. As compared to the distance of a normal horizon. Ever been in the city of Palm Springs about 1 to 2 hours before sunset ?

415 posted on 11/11/2010 7:27:02 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: TigersEye

Did you see this video of the Nov. 9 event?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcUoqNyhIfQ


416 posted on 11/11/2010 7:29:07 PM PST by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Gargantua

Did you see this video of the Nov. 9 event?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcUoqNyhIfQ


417 posted on 11/11/2010 7:30:40 PM PST by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Sto Zvirat
I didn't know they had internet in Slovakia. You typing almost so good.

The F-16 is visible coming in, at altitude, from the right of the video at 46 seconds. Slope.

8^D

418 posted on 11/11/2010 8:01:40 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: daisy mae for the usa
So at least one other person saw it and got it recorded. Wonder what location he was located at ? Missile traveling to the right. You can tell the sun is setting to the right since the left side of the plume trail is dark. So this missile was heading west away from Los Angeles. He must have been north of the launch. Malibu or Santa Barbara ?
419 posted on 11/11/2010 8:02:59 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Gargantua
No dude. That was Flight 3271826354. Leaves Burbank Airport everyday at that time. Destination is Phucket Thailand. They stop for refueling at Bikini Atoll. /s
420 posted on 11/11/2010 8:07:25 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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