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1 posted on 11/10/2010 6:46:44 AM PST by CaptainKip
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I would put half in gold, half in foreclosures and the other half in food and supplies (ammo, toilet paper, canned good, medical supplies, gasoline)

The the remaining in a storage and survival bunker


2 posted on 11/10/2010 6:48:38 AM PST by Mr. K (*this space for rent*)
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Wait and see what the lame duck congress does on Bush Tax Cuts. You should know around first week in December.


3 posted on 11/10/2010 6:50:04 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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You did not provide enough information.

In general, do not cash out your 401 until you can do so without penalty.

This money is for the future, not the here and now.


4 posted on 11/10/2010 6:51:24 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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I’m out! It’s in MY grubby hands now! The gubermint can’t touch it!


6 posted on 11/10/2010 6:52:10 AM PST by Circle_Hook
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I did it last year and regret it.

Remember one thing: it's all a fraud.

They will pump up the stock market again. You're balance will look good, it's just that the dollars will be worthless, and that will be the case no matter where you put it.

7 posted on 11/10/2010 6:52:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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If you’re worried about a market crash, most 401k plans have more conservative investment options to move into, but it depends on the plan.

If you’re more concerned about a government raid of retirement accounts, I am a bit more confident that the new freshmen in the House won’t let that happen unless it’s done in a lame-duck session.


8 posted on 11/10/2010 6:52:41 AM PST by RockinRight (if the choice is between Crazy and Commie, I choose Crazy.)
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I think the only reason I would consider doing something like that would be to pay off my house.


10 posted on 11/10/2010 6:58:17 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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I wouldn't have it in stocks or bonds right now, but in cash positions, or short term treasuries. We are in TSP and “G” fund is considered our “safe haven”, fwiw

http://www.tsptalk.com/funds.html

Even with inflation looming, preserving even 80% of yr capital capital is probably better than facing another sudden big stock/bond crash

Is your 401K in a fund where you can move funds around quickly and on your own decisions? If not, rollover to one that you monitor and manage hands-on, do not depend on (an pay fees to) “money managers” unless they protected you in 2008. Ours did nothing but watch the sleigh go down the track.

If lame duck congress doesn't extend current tax code by December recess, then run the numbers to see if it makes sense to cash out by Dec 31, or stick it out in cash for several years ahead

Pay attention to managing your debt and paying it off- that is extra income in your pocket the govt can't touch

11 posted on 11/10/2010 6:58:58 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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Only if you are planning on leaving the country for good.


13 posted on 11/10/2010 7:00:17 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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Roll it into an IRA. An IRA lets you put it into anything. Not only that, you should then transfer it all into a Roth. There’s a new rule that will delay the taxes for this year only. Then put it into a Silver Fund. I did this back in January and don’t regret it a bit.


15 posted on 11/10/2010 7:00:53 AM PST by chopperman
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Buy high, sell low. That’s what most retail investors do.


17 posted on 11/10/2010 7:03:07 AM PST by JoeFromCA
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Never did a 401k because I do not trust the government.

Too much money out there causing temptation for the Federal government to confiscate...same with gold.

Stuck my money in bar and liquor stocks...people will drink regardless.


18 posted on 11/10/2010 7:03:55 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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Wondering when/if the government will nationalize 401(k)? I am.


19 posted on 11/10/2010 7:07:03 AM PST by FourPeas (Pester not the geek, for the electrons are his friends.)
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I am not going that direction, but if I was going to I would look at investing in ag property with water.


20 posted on 11/10/2010 7:08:19 AM PST by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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You can roll it into an IRA that can invest in real estate.


21 posted on 11/10/2010 7:09:37 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Nobody tell Barack Obama what number comes after a trillion" --S.P.)
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Check with your account, BUT if you empty your 401k in several equal payments then you do not have to pay the penalty.
22 posted on 11/10/2010 7:10:10 AM PST by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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The cardinal rule in investing is:
DON’T PANIC.

(Coincidently, that’s also the first rule given to travellers in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.)

Cashing in a 401k before retirement is probably a really, really bad idea. The odds of armageddon happening in the next few years are pretty low. However, the taxes (between 15-35%, probably at the higher end) and penalties (another 20%) on withdrawal are dead certain and permanent.

Almost every 401k plan allows the individual participant to select mutual funds from a list of funds. So, you think Ben B and Timmy G are going to wreck the US$? Then get out of the bond (AKA, fixed income) funds and re-allocate something like 50-50 to the international equity fund and the money market fund. If you have options for an international bond fund or an inflation-protection fund, include those also. It’s unlikely that a 401k would have a fund concentrating in mining, petroleum or natural resources, but that pick would also be an obvious candidate. If Ben B and Timmy G successfully ruin the US$, the international funds get currency protection and the US$ MMF eventually gets a higher short term interest rate. It’s highly unlikely that Ben B and Timmy G will do as much damage to your 401k’s value as you would by cashing it in.

DON’T PANIC! Just be sure to get out of any fund that has the words “intermediate bond”, “long term bond”, “fixed income”, or “20xx target” if you have concerns about the competence of the ruling elite.


25 posted on 11/10/2010 7:16:14 AM PST by Skepolitic
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The penalties are pretty onerous....
Talk to your financial planner--

Think it all the way through---

Just sayin'

26 posted on 11/10/2010 7:16:41 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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If your plan allows a non-hardship early withdrawal, roll it into an IRA and invest as you see fit. If not, you are crazy to do cash it out. Heck, if you are that determined quit, roll over your 401(k) and re-apply for your job.


29 posted on 11/10/2010 7:22:07 AM PST by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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You should discuss your situation with a financial advisor, not strangers (albeit well-meaning) on an anonymous web forum.

Many will provide a free consulrtion. It can only give you more information and options.


32 posted on 11/10/2010 7:28:32 AM PST by bigbob
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