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To: cartervt2k
You are incorrect.

I never said it would take 51 seats to get an Obamacare repeal through the Senate; although it *might* happen if Reid and Coats force through the redefinition (elimination of) the filibuster during the lame-duck session, and then the GOP takes the Senate in 2012.

I'd prefer it not happen that way, for obvious reasons.

Instead, we can kill it via de-funding in the House, until we re-take the Senate and get President GOP (hopefully Palin) in 2012.

As far as electoral kamikazes? It's fun to see how the RINOs cheerfully blame Delaware on the conservatives, and in particular Palin -- though she didn't endorse COD until a day or so before the election; and yet keep mum over the millions of dollars wasted on so-called "self-funded" and "rational, sensible" high-profile GOP candidates for governor and Senator in CA; and the turmoil in AK caused by the existing RINO crew encouraging Murkowski by not stripping her of leadership roles once she lost the primary.

It's funny -- the RINOs demand that conservatives hold their nose and vote for a RINO in the election, but never return the favor.

And the rumors that Bachus is being considered for a key appointment in the House makes me see red.

FUKR. FUMR. FUDF. FUNG.

...oh, and Krauthammer too.

85 posted on 11/08/2010 5:12:10 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Let’s go over some math:

Obama won with 53% of the vote - he now has about 8-10% points less now in approval rating. That means, there is a crucial middle that will go with the ebb and flow of elections, depending on a number of factors and these are people who will determine the outcome of an election. You can tell yourself all you want that Palin can get most of these people against Obama, but polling data indicates otherwise. And, I don’t even think there’s any amount of mayhem he can still unleash on us still that would move the needle further against her. These independents want to vote with us - this is still a center-right country but may vote against us if they don’t “like” the person we put up there (even if her positions on the issues is identical to someone they prefer). So, you can gamble all you want with Palin, but it is going to be a tremendous risk in a year where this man has no business getting reelected.

If democrats never got elected in national elections and republicans did with 70% of the vote, you know I’d agree with you and we should start purging all the RINO’s for fear they dilute the message. But, that’s not the reality we live in.

It never mattered in Delaware if we ran Christine O’Donnell or an experienced conservative, relatively baggage-free politician like Jim DeMint. Castle would have been the best we could have hoped for, and now we have the bearded marxist instead. Palin had nothing to do with DE. You’re not going to turn a deep blue state bright red especially when your candidate is running commercials saying she’s not a witch.

We can cut funding to Obamacare, but the problem is once it’s on the books, a democrat congress can start funding it again. It is very unlikely the filibuster rules will change. So where does that leave us? If we have 55 senators in 2013, do you honestly think we’re getting it repealed? Maybe D’s will be under such pressure that they’ll at least allow a vote, maybe not. I’m starting to think our best shot is Justice Kennedy, who I think stands a fair chance of pulling out the rug on this thing.


86 posted on 11/09/2010 4:32:21 AM PST by cartervt2k
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