Posted on 11/02/2010 7:29:34 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
OK Michael Steele has started to act the part recently.
But Mike. It's not a tenured position.
Horsefeathers.
O’Donnell did not fail. O’Donnell was sabotaged.
Just look at all the people this race has fired up, right here on this board.
That’s what we need. Some energy. Make some waves.
Duncan Hunter.
Are you volunteering to run?
You have such exquisite taste in candidates, can you locate and convince your kind of candidate to run in the next election? We certainly need them...
Condemning a good conservative who got railroaded by RINO elites is definitely NOT a good use of your time or this forum. Just sayin.
Yeah, that too. I despise Mitt and resent the idea it’s only Mitt supporters who don’t favor the idea.
I’ll put it another way. Christine O’Donnell is no Sarah Palin and she never will be. Sarah lacked experience on a national stage but she was an accomplished woman with some formed opinions who made it where she did largely on her own. Christine is a woman who parroted conservative talking points and tried to take advantage of the Tea Party movement to finally land that public office she’s been after for several years with some questionable actions in her past that make me question her integrity.
I’ve made it known I don’t favor her and didnt expect her to win but I’ve mostly held my tongue about this groupie attitude towards her but she’s lost and now I will address it. This needs to stop. You are in it for the movement or you are in it for the personality. I want conservatism to succeed. I’ll drop someone cold if I think they can’t make that happen. Sometimes I’m willing to take a gamble as with Angle but I am not going to walk over the cliff for someone like O’Donnell’s who’s main appeal seems to be Rove dislikes her.
Thanks!
Concern troll, version 2.0 I see.
So recommend someone you believe is better.
Let me guess: Mitt Romney.
No thank you.
She is not a star.
You know, just because people have an R next to their name does not make them a good candidate! Palin’s endorsement was a mistake and if the baggage was known ahead of time it never would have happened.
SHE WON INDEPENDENTS. SHE WON THE WHITE VOTE.
SHE WON IN TWO OF THREE COUNTIES.
I am becoming irritated that FR is full of so many who don't want to see our people win.
Welcome to FR.
Welcome to FR.
I don't know. I'm much more cynical than that. Conservatism is big enough to be a pretty good business. People sell books, go on TV, talk on the radio. It's a pretty good gig, if that's what you want to do. And maybe it serves a purpose. But I'm sure it attracts opportunists.
I just don't take people seeking office at face value. The burden of proof is on them. I didn't really care about witchcraft or masturbation. But I saw a pattern of someone who wants to be in front of a camera. She's got the talking points down, and maybe would have even backed it up, but I'm just saying my spider senses would have been tingling on that one. I'd worry about having her represent us. I'm hoping she doesn't get another chance. Judgemental? Yes. I just get the feeling she's in it for the attention and the money. If Palin is the Beatles, she's The Monkees.
I have a term for such people. It's meant for men or women, so let's not get into a victim-mysogyny thing, but I call them AWs (attention whores.) She seems like one to me.
Maybe I'm dead wrong. Maybe it's all sincere. OK. I also wasn't convinced that she really knew what she was talking about. To me, she was somewhere between Sean Hannity and a rock. That 1st amendment thing was a classic example.
Supporters squawked that she was correct on the point, but the real point is that she lost the argument. She didn't persuade. She had a set-up line but no punch-line.
And anyway, she and her supporters are wrong about "separation of church and state." You have to recognize the powers granted in Article 3 of the Constitution. The fact is you can't just read the Constitution. You have to know a couple centuries' worth of SCOTUS decisions or else you don't know what the LAW actually is. Anyone thinking they can hold this government to just the bullet points in Article 1, Sec. 8 are tilting at windmills.
But I digress. The truth is, I live in NJ, so there was nothing I could do about it anyway. And anytime mania hits Free Republic, like, say, back in the Elian Gonzalez days, there's no sense arguing about it.
I bear in mind that one thing leads to another, and we never know in advance how that is going to play out. Seemingly good things can trigger bad ones, and vice versa. Most of it is, thankfully, out of my control, and so I am a witness, an extra without a speaking role.
There's a bothersome tendency towards glorification and pop-star treatment in our ranks, without a healthy skepticism. I'm not saying everyone needs to see through my dark glasses, but a little reserve would be nice. Trust but VERIFY. And ask for better.
Cheers on a good night. Sorry to ramble.
The 1st amendment thing was terrible politics. Even if she had communicated her point effectively, is that going to win over DE voters? Is that a pressing issue there? The winning issues this year were fiscal issues. Run against PORKULUS, Bail-outs, Obamacare. With those issues she MIGHT have had a chance. Although, didn't she run there a couple of times already?
OK. I'm done. Thanks.
Solid assessment. But what the hell? Let's underline A GOOD NIGHT. It could have been worse. Imagine if the country were all behind Obama like they were FDR! Imagine living through 4 terms of that! Tonight was some decent push-back, and we're not tired yet.
LOL - not really new. I was here for many years before being banned for being critical of GWB (mccain/feingold, prescription drug benefit, increased spending, etc...).
I enjoy good political discussion even if it does not meet your standards :)
It’s interesting to note.
Starting to appear, the reason for much of GWB’s dumb ideas - such as referring to his own most enthusiastic supporters as “vigilantes”.
Apparently may have been: Karl Rove. The guy is a one-man wrecking crew.
I’ll agree with you that Rove appears to be incredibly tone deaf! Hopefully the tea-party movement keeps gathering steam and we can teach the Washington masters a thing or two about providing responsible governance vs pandering to the masses!
One other thought...
Steele has not been impressive overall for his term as head of RNC. But the last couple of months he has been awesome!!! too bad he has not been this dynamic his entire term. But lots of credit for coming on strong late.
ping
Sometimes you people scare the crap out of me. I can remember when calling myself a conservative was a hallmark of intelligence, but bonehead ideas like this tarnish the image. When did hero(ine) worship come into vogue in conservative circles?
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