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I Was At Berger-Belsen This Week
Vanity | 10/30/2010 | RB

Posted on 10/30/2010 4:51:41 PM PDT by Free America52

I was in Hamburg Germany this week for business, and had the fortune (?) of visiting the memorial at Berger-Belsen, one of the most notorious Nazi concentration camps. By the time the camp was liberated by British troops on April 15, 1945, there were 12,000-13,000 Jews dying every day from starvation and disease.

It is one of the most notorious of all Nazi concentration camps for several reasons:

1) Anne Frank and her sister Margot died in this camp.

2) As the allied forces pushed their way into Germany, Hitler had prisoners from camps in the encroachment areas moved to other prisons. Berger-Belsen received many of these prisoners and severely overloaded an already overloaded camp. Deaths became staggerlingly high.

Here are two historical clips that will make your hair stand up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzdtPcNwRtM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUxSxQlwR6s&feature=related

Several things really stuck out to me:

1) In a very eerie way, the Berger-Belsen grounds were very quiet. There were no birds, no animals, no insects or any sort of non-plant life although the prison was surrounded by thousands of acres of forest. According to local lore, no living thing exists.

2) This was not a re-enactment with buildings, etc., this was just a solemn walk through a beautiful place where some very horrible things happened. The area is simply breathtakingly beautiful.

3) They have a fabulous museum on site that tells the whole story. I could spend 1-2 days just in the museum.

I am 54 years old, and this was the most emotional experience in my life (outside of life / death issues). I will forever be touched, and plan to make a German vacation visiting more of these camps.

It is impossible to describe ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: bergerbelsen; nazi
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To: kabumpo

Thank you. I’ll look for it. (However, I do think dwelling on this evil is spiritually dangerous. One can never explain it or find any rational explanation for the nazi atrocities.) It was from Satan himself.


61 posted on 10/30/2010 6:33:29 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: Gapplega
One can never explain it or find any rational explanation for the nazi atrocities.) It was from Satan himself.

That's bull. The German people weren't taken over by Satanic forces. Enough of the population became convinced that what the government said was in the best interests of the country as a whole was more important than what was good for any individual. Enough of the population became convinced that the experts knew more about how to solve the problems of the country than the people did, and if they just turned responsibility for solving the problems over to those experts they wouldn't themselves have to worry about having to go to the trouble of thinking about complex problems like that.

Modern day examples of that mindset are all around us. Their solutions to the supposed crises of Healthcare and Global Warming spring to mind. Just let the statist experts come up with the solutions and everything will be dandy for everyone, they say. And just like in Germany, a LOT of people in current America buy into it.

62 posted on 10/30/2010 6:54:11 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Free America52

Berger-Belsen? In Hamburg? LOL!


63 posted on 10/30/2010 7:14:28 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Party is shovel ready)
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To: Mike Darancette

Location
South of Hamburg near the town of Bergen

Gedenkstatte Bergen-Belsen
D-29303 Lohheide
Germnay
phone: 49+5051 6001
Fax: 49+5051 7396

e-mail: nlpb@politische-bildung.de

Open Daily
9am-6pm

Entrance Fee
Free

Travel
Train: Take the trian to Celle. From there it is about a 45 minute drive.
Bus: The bus stop is on the left of the train station in Celle. Take bus #9 to Bergen Belsen. (No buses back on Saturday, no buses run on Sunday)


64 posted on 10/30/2010 7:28:58 PM PDT by MestaMachine (VOTE!)
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To: Mike Darancette

mit pickles


65 posted on 10/30/2010 7:30:47 PM PDT by MestaMachine (VOTE!)
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To: Wissa

Hitler and his henchmen were possessed. You can either believe it or not. The occult nature of Nazism has been well-documented. The German people didn’t have any say in it after 1933.


66 posted on 10/30/2010 7:32:52 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: Free America52

My old across the street neighbor (I moved 3 miles), who I still see from time to time, was born of a woman sporting a Bergen-Belsen tatoo.

Just knowing that was/is a very sobering thing.

Molon labe.


67 posted on 10/30/2010 7:36:28 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Free America52


68 posted on 10/30/2010 7:37:32 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Gapplega
Hitler and his henchmen were possessed. You can either believe it or not. The occult nature of Nazism has been well-documented.

Do you think there was justice in hanging the ones guilty of the worst war crimes? Or do you think it would have been more appropriate to bring in exorcists to deal with it?

70 posted on 10/30/2010 7:45:22 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: calex59

Have a nice day :)


71 posted on 10/30/2010 7:54:58 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Talisker; HospiceNurse

I fail to see where “Did they misspell it?” as being mocking.


72 posted on 10/30/2010 8:06:03 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Wissa

The Vatican actually tried a long distance “exorcism” of Hitler, but it didn’t work. They rarely do.

I believe in the justice delivered at Nuremberg. People must be held accountable.

Nothing can be done to fix this wound.
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Morgenthau recommended making Germany a completely agrarian society (code for starving them to death) after the war. Would that have made things right?

One either believes in the actual presence of an evil being (Satan) or one doesn’t. I do.


73 posted on 10/30/2010 8:10:11 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: Gapplega

No, this isn’t really about the Nazis. It’s a heroic story and deals with something quite different.


74 posted on 10/30/2010 8:34:36 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Ahithophel; Free America52; Beckwith; LucyT
Thatks Free for sharing. I attended the University of New brusnswick in Fredericton, New Brunswick. The chancellor was Lord Beaverbrook and his Son Sir MaxAitken, after him. Beaverbrook was the inister of Aircraft production leading up to the Battle of Britain, Sir Max was a spitfire pilot in the B of B.

Many of the faculty wrere men who fought in and over Germany.Altogether these men wanted to be sure that later generations of us would never forget what fascism is, how to recognize it,and how to fight it: truth, exposure, and ridicule.

The history department had a standing course on Fascism and its rise around the world. Many of us took it,from one of the leading historians in the field even today, Professor Emeritus Gilbert Allardyce. We studied the death camps in great detail as well as all the fascists movements in Europe. We had them right here in the USA prior to WWII, Liberals Joseph Kennedy and Lindburg loved Hitler and his ideas.A whole class of US liberals did as well. jonah Goldberg points this out is his well researched hostorical work," Liberal Fascism, The Secret G=Hhistory of Ameica's Left, Fromo Musolinni to the Politics of Meaning" Politics of meaning = political correctness, and we now in fact are no longer a nation of laws,but of political correctness.Few have noticed.

Obama and his cronies pass all the historical tests for fascism, the major one being historical justice and the redistribution of wealth to the allegedly historically downtrodden, the wages of which descendents are supposed to pay? This is the ideology of Obama, Rev. Wright,and Louise Farakhan. Makes me sick to watch them and their little thuggish games.No, we need to send Obama and his cronies into the dust bin of history before they evolve further, along with all the rest of them.He has lots of company IMHO.

The infrastructure for camps exists right here, along with rail cars equipped with handcuff interior rails. After one knows what happened on the ground at those camps in Europe, we have a right to be wary. Its not much of a stretch to imagine what Obama and his Czars would do if faced with wholesale insurrection of the US public.

FEMA Camp Data and Executive Orders

And this is the face of it:

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75 posted on 10/30/2010 8:48:02 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

they’ll have to get rid of our guns first. People with guns don’t get into train-cars.


76 posted on 10/30/2010 8:55:13 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: Gapplega
I agree, but then few of us have machine guns, artillery, tanks, missiles,and high explosive ordnance either.And also remember thaty after the last census, in the precensus the census workers took the GPS location for each of our homes.The leaders of the resistance would lose their homes in very short order.

If we survived the first month or so, we would win.

But at tremendous cost. At the same time we likely would be invaded by one or another of our international enemies.

It would be one hell of a fight, but then " What price freedom?"

77 posted on 10/30/2010 9:03:03 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7
For those with strong stomachs, I recommend Eugen Kogon’s “The Theory and Practice of Hell.” Kogon was arrested and thrown into a concentration camp early in Hitler's coming to power in Germany. That he lived to see the end of the war is a miracle.

I read Kogon’s book as a college student in the 1960’s. It was positively CHILLING. Anyone who believes “it can't happen again” is a total fool. It CAN happen again and events are aligning for another go around. Far too many are willfully blind or just too stupid (or both) to see this coming. It's not going to be pretty.

78 posted on 10/30/2010 9:40:01 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MasterGunner01

We will stop them. The opening shot of that battle is next Tuesday.And then we will have to fight them hard for 2 years, and then finish the job.

Most of us would prefer to banish the Obama Movement at the polling booth,but that kind of attempt didn’t work in Germany or Italy.

This is a pretty good read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


79 posted on 10/30/2010 9:54:29 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Never Again has been forgotten and is ringing hollow.

For, it is an intrinsic part of our fallen, sinful nature that "it is the doom of men, that they forget...

Evil is on the march again, IMO.

True, and it will ever be so, until the Prince of Peace returns, so we pray, even as He taught us "Thy kingdom come..."

the infowarrior

80 posted on 10/31/2010 1:04:11 AM PDT by infowarrior
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