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Microsoft vs. Apple: Who's winning? The numbers don't lie
ZDNet ^ | October 24, 2010 | Ed Bott

Posted on 10/25/2010 6:29:11 PM PDT by Wooly

Microsoft has been at the top of the heap for almost as long as people have used PCs. They’ve managed to sustain an overwhelming competitive advantage, even after a decade’s worth of antitrust action and the astonishing transformation of Apple into a profit-making machine that has built one billion-dollar business after another while the entire rest of the tech industry is stuck in neutral. Indeed, the presence of Apple and Google as direct competitors suggests that maybe Microsoft is overdue to take a tumble.

There is never a shortage of Apple-versus-Microsoft yammering in the blogosphere, but I haven’t seen much in the way of actual data. Is Apple really making a dent in Microsoft’s long-standing Windows monopoly? Are mobile devices like the iPhone and iPad taking over tasks that used to be done by PCs? Sales figures tell part of the story, but in my opinion the best data comes from analyzing how devices are being used in the real world. I went off in search of hard numbers, and I found them at the same source I used earlier this year to measure Windows 7 adoption rates (see When will XP finally fade away?).

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To: Ramius
OK... honest question here: for an enterprise Mac environment how do you enforce whole-disk encrption of client machines and centrally manage encryption keys

Whole disk encryption software is available. Also, if you want to encrypt only the users' profiles (encrypting the OS itself is a bit of overkill), OS X provides FileVault.

That's nice, pick one built-in feature of Windows that OS X doesn't have. Can you do video screen capture in Windows out of the box?

61 posted on 10/26/2010 7:27:21 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: TomServo

And Bill Gates is a major liberal, and Rush Limbaugh is a fanatical Mac user.


62 posted on 10/26/2010 7:28:51 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: desertfreedom765
Microsoft has never been an innovative company.

I have to disagree. I can think of a few important ones off the top of my head.


63 posted on 10/26/2010 7:45:15 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: ReignOfError
trying to appease a ghost was what almost killed Disney until Eisner and Katzenberg came in.

Unfortunately, they almost killed what made Disney special. Even if a successor to Jobs doesn't think "WWJD" (hehe) he should still remember that Apple should continue to be special. Going run-of-the-mill, commodity, will kill Apple as they will become another Dell.

64 posted on 10/26/2010 7:50:28 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
If Ballmer dies tomorrow, there will be very little net effect on the image or success of Microsoft.

I disagree. If his successor has any vision, Microsoft will enjoy much more success post-Ballmer. Ballmer has shown a very consistent lack of vision during his tenure.

65 posted on 10/26/2010 7:53:27 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Wooly

Macs can run Windows. Apple and Microsoft can be very successful at the same time. This is less true of other hardware makers like HP, Sony etc although the market is certainly big enough for many players. But clearly the sale of a Mac does not (necessarily) mean one less Windows license. And I would guess a solid majority of Macs are running Office.


66 posted on 10/26/2010 8:29:44 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

RAM - yes

Hard Drives - Yes

Optical Drives - depends on laptop or desktop (much like the PC world)

Add-on external components - mostly

Video Card - almost

Motherboard/power supply - no

Then again, it is that “any part/frankenstein” nature of the PC world that creates a big part of the headache.

It is all in if the trade-off is worth it to the end consumer. For those who’s time is valuable, the answer is often yes.


67 posted on 10/26/2010 8:30:23 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: BenKenobi

4X as much? And from which dark, stinky, brown, orifice did you pull that figure?


68 posted on 10/26/2010 8:31:50 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Tribune7
Absolutely! The techies like their jobs :-)

So, do you want to be a network administrator?

69 posted on 10/26/2010 8:42:33 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: TheBattman

The same one you pulled yours from.

Not sure where you shop. I paid around 400 dollars for this machine. The macs all ran over 1500 dollars plus.

“Thank you sir, may I have another?”


70 posted on 10/26/2010 8:45:33 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: BenKenobi

And it is equal to the $1,500 Mac?


71 posted on 10/26/2010 9:04:28 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Mr. Blonde

Superior as I could run all my programs on it.


72 posted on 10/26/2010 9:25:44 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: TXnMA
The routine productivity of an Apple is twice that of a Windows PC -- with far less frustration

That is fact. I have -- and use -- both.


And it has a productive life that is far longer than a Windows PC.
73 posted on 10/26/2010 9:28:31 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: antiRepublicrat
That's nice, pick one built-in feature of Windows that OS X doesn't have. Can you do video screen capture in Windows out of the box?

Well, in an Enteprise environment, all of users have to have full disk encryption, but they don't all have to do video capture. All of them must have central key escrow.

Don't get me wrong... I'm an original mac-head from about system 6 on my old SE/30. I love 'em. But from an Enterprise point of view, macs are trouble. Everything about them becomes more of a hassle, and more expensive.

74 posted on 10/26/2010 9:50:31 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: BenKenobi

Name a program you can run that will not run on a Mac.


75 posted on 10/26/2010 9:51:32 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!)
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To: antiRepublicrat; ROCKLOBSTER
Can you just build one up from off-the-shelf parts?

Johnny Cash built a Cadillac. It was pretty cool according to his song.

76 posted on 10/26/2010 9:52:07 AM PDT by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: BenKenobi
Superior as I could run all my programs on it.

More useful for you, does not equal superior, especially if you are using outdated legacy products.

77 posted on 10/26/2010 10:01:41 AM PDT by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: TXnMA

Indy 256


78 posted on 10/26/2010 10:02:06 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: itsahoot

In terms of actual performance, there was no difference between the specs of either machine.


79 posted on 10/26/2010 10:09:31 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: tacticalogic
I can appreciate that you don't want to be a system administrator, but in the enterprise somebody has to be. Machines built by and for people who don't want to be system administators predictably don't have the administation capability built in and then they become a PITA for the people who are system administrators.

Of course someone has to be the system administrator in an enterprise environment. Mac OS X is UNIX. Go to the command line and you can be the system administrator of anyone's UNIX ssystem. Apple uses LDAP, so you can administer all of the Macs in your enterprise centrally like any other UNIX or Windows network. I have worked in the past as a system administrator in the enterprise environment on both Windows and UNIX machines. I will take administering UNIX over administering Windows any time of the day.

Apple has made using their computers easy for the average person. The average person does not want to be a system administrator. And they shouldn't be. Someone else should do that for them.

There are reasons why there's a PC on their desk at work, but they don't care or want to know what they are, they just complain that it's not how they want it to be.

Yes, there are reasons. Window was cheap when hardware became a commodity. And you get what you pay for.

But we are now moving out of the desktop era into the mobile era. Microsoft has no advantage now that operating systems are a commodity.

80 posted on 10/26/2010 10:12:25 AM PDT by stripes1776 (t)
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