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NEED LAPTOP HELP!!
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Posted on 10/19/2010 11:44:54 PM PDT by Keltik

My laptop has crashed. My PC froze while a flashdrive was connected to it. I tried to restart it but could not even reboot, not even in safe mode.

My problem is almost exactly the same as the one described on this page: http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/94457-windows-unable-start-startup-repair-system-restore-wont-work.html

Unfortunately, that page does not give a solution.

It's an Asus K60 Laptop, Windows 7. Startup Repair doesn't work, it will not let me do a system restore and I don't know which file to choose in a re-imaging (see article).

PLEASE help!!


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1 posted on 10/19/2010 11:44:56 PM PDT by Keltik
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To: ShadowAce

Computer help ping! Empty the nerdery!


2 posted on 10/19/2010 11:49:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Keltik

Is the flash drive still in the laptop? You might take it out and see what happens.


3 posted on 10/19/2010 11:51:22 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Am I my half-brother's keeper?)
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To: Keltik

Hope you listened to Rush and have Carbonite! Sounds as if you will be rebuilding from backup disks.


4 posted on 10/19/2010 11:53:57 PM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: Keltik

Your ASUS model could/should still be within warranty. Did you contact them yet?


5 posted on 10/19/2010 11:55:51 PM PDT by max americana (Hoax and Chains, Dopeychangey)
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To: Keltik

Sounds like the magic I enjoy with Vista. Blue screen death is a way of life.


6 posted on 10/19/2010 11:56:31 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA ("Forces of Evil" member in good standing)
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To: Keltik
On battery power or ac power?
Does fan or fans run?
Any disk activity seen?
7 posted on 10/19/2010 11:58:15 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: Keltik

Some laptops have a fairly inconspicuous hole somewhere, in the back or underneath.

It amounts to a BIOS reset switch. Sticking a toothpick or non-conducting point in there will reset the bios.

DO NOT stick anything into the machine unless you are absolutely, positively sure what you are doing!

DO check the owners manual, or, if not available, check with ASUS tech support.

Good luck!


8 posted on 10/19/2010 11:59:42 PM PDT by djf (OK, so you got milk. Got Tula???)
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To: nutmeg

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9 posted on 10/20/2010 12:08:49 AM PDT by nutmeg (13 days 'til Election Day... BrickleyForCongress.com... RetireBarney.com)
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To: Keltik

Remove the flash drive and unplug everything, if you haven’t already. Allow some cooling time, and try again. That’s just a basic thing to try; anything else becomes a trip to a computer repair shop for me.


10 posted on 10/20/2010 12:30:32 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Keltik
There is nothing you can do yourself. To determine whether the problem is a scrambled hard drive or an electronic component failure it will be necessary to pull out the existing hard drive and plug in a substitute to see if the sub drive can be read and written to properly.

It sounds like a component failure to me, caused by static electricity discharge into the USB port. The possibility exists that the computer's BIOS settings got scrambled somehow, but it's not very likely. Wrong BIOS settings could prevent reading the hard drive properly, BUT....modern BIOS software and the accompanying hardware do an excellent job of automatically re-reading drive parameters and updating those settings stored in the BIOS memory.

I think a hard drive substitution test will be required to determine if the drive is at fault or the motherboard damaged. If it's the motherboard you are looking at a new computer.

11 posted on 10/20/2010 12:41:43 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Truth is called hate by those who hate the truth.)
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To: Keltik
I find that unplugging the AC cord and then removing the battery for a few minutes sometimes fixes bugs like this. If you can't even get to safe mode you have problems you may have trouble fixing at home. Another "try" would be to boot from the DVD Rom. If you can't do that,.....shop time. Try the battery trick first though. Oh yeah, be sure to remove the flash chip/USB drive. We need more info for a better fix.

Does it come on?

Does it even post?

Can you get into the setup screen and reset to default settings?

If it doesn't post or even get to setup screen, then you could have a hardware problem.

Try booting with the Hard drive out. If you have 2 memory strips remove one and then try the other by itself. Are the fans coming on? If your fan is dead, the CPU will quit in about a minute or even less.

12 posted on 10/20/2010 12:53:08 AM PDT by chuckles
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You may have interrupted the shut down procedure by pulling the flash drive out without closing it out first.

I did that. Could not get the computer to boot.


13 posted on 10/20/2010 2:14:38 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: Keltik

Where exactly does it fail on startup, how eactly does it fail, and what is the error message if a blue screen appears?

I’m suspecting the reason you are experiencing this is because there is an incompatibility in the drivers that were installed along with the USB/flash device you plugged in. What’s happening is there is a smart card interface in Windows 7 that’s crashing whenever the logon portion of Windows is initiated.

To work around this, hit the space bar on startup to show the “safe mode” screen. When it appears, select the “Last Known Good Configuration” option.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Using-Last-Known-Good-Configuration

If this fails, you’ll want to go into “Safe Mode With Command Prompt” from the same screen by hitting the space bar. You should be at a BLACK command prompt after logging in with your Administrator account (this was created with password when the laptop was installed). Type in MSCONFIG at the command prompt, then hit enter. This will bring up the Microsoft Configuration utility where you can disable and enable startup options.

http://www.eggheadcafe.com/forumarchives/WindowsXPbasics/Aug2005/post23883512.asp

Disable everything from the MSCONFIG utility and reboot the workstation. Nothing will come up correctly but you should be able to get into the workstation and re-install the correct USB/flash drivers from the manufacturer. You’ll need to save this to a CD/DVD from another workstation. Nothing, including the network connections, will be operational in this mode.

Restart the workstation again. Load the MSCONFIG utility from the “Search” option on the START menu by typing in MSCONFIG again. Re-enable everything you disabled using MSCONFIG originally, then reboot. The workstation should now come up correctly.

More on MSCONFIG can be found here:

http://netsquirrel.com/msconfig/msconfig_win7.html

Even if you can get back into the workstation using MSCONFIG but can’t without disabling items, you can still complete a system restore from the windows interface. The key here is to be able to get back into the workstation desktop.


14 posted on 10/20/2010 2:18:00 AM PDT by BocoLoco
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To: gunsequalfreedom

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You may have interrupted the shut down procedure by pulling the flash drive out without closing it out first.

I did that. Could not get the computer to boot.
<<<

Anybody have a solution for this?


15 posted on 10/20/2010 3:01:58 AM PDT by Keltik ("The goal should not be diversity -- the goal must be Quality.")
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To: Keltik

When I get the blue screen..the laptop goes in the creek. Must be 4 of em in there..


16 posted on 10/20/2010 4:38:57 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Keltik

Once you recover your data, load linux.


17 posted on 10/20/2010 5:02:45 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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18 posted on 10/20/2010 5:09:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Keltik
When you say it will not reboot does that mean you get nothing. NO screen display at all or does the Asus splash screen come up but no windows.

We really need more info on this.

19 posted on 10/20/2010 5:50:23 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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When you say it will not reboot does that mean you get nothing. NO screen display at all or does the Asus splash screen come up but no windows.

We really need more info on this.
<<<

This page tells what happens to me almost exactly:

http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/94457-windows-unable-start-startup-repair-system-restore-wont-work.html

1. I get the company logo

2. “A recent hardware or software change might be the cause” etc... It recommends I launch strem repair

3. “Startup Repair cannot repair this computer automatically” Etc etc etc... See the link for details

Apparently this is all b/c I removed the flashdrive at the wrong nanoceond. Is there a solution? Perhaps DLing new drivers?


20 posted on 10/20/2010 6:04:52 AM PDT by Keltik ("The goal should not be diversity -- the goal must be Quality.")
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