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To: metmom

This thread is really good because it makes it clear as a bell what libertarians really are.

Pro-homosexual agenda, pro-abortion, Islam-enabling, drug tolerant/or using people who want to enfeeble and emasculate the military.

The only good thing is they want lower taxes.


73 posted on 10/04/2010 12:03:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: little jeremiah
The only good thing is they want lower taxes.

Oh really?

Sorry, but they even fail (epic failure) on that issue as well.

I've had it up to here with debating libertarians who want Prop. 19 to pass. When I press them on how that will RAISE taxes - they have nothing to say.

I take that back. They do say this: I'm a nanny-stater who won't who wants to return to Prohibition, and blah, blah, blah.

80 posted on 10/04/2010 12:30:23 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: little jeremiah
Other than the...

No. Not even that. Your entire statement is so wrong it may not even be English.

Being anti-Roe v Wade, pro-smaller Government, freedom for all, and strong RKBA cannot be twisted by even the most perverted minds to mean what you just wrote.

81 posted on 10/04/2010 12:32:14 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: little jeremiah
This thread is really good because it makes it clear as a bell what libertarians really are. Pro-homosexual agenda, pro-abortion, Islam-enabling, drug tolerant/or using people who want to enfeeble and emasculate the military. The only good thing is they want lower taxes.

That is accurate.

85 posted on 10/04/2010 12:48:57 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: little jeremiah
This thread is really good because it makes it clear as a bell what libertarians really are.

Pro-homosexual agenda, pro-abortion, Islam-enabling, drug tolerant/or using people who want to enfeeble and emasculate the military.

The only good thing is they want lower taxes.

From a 1975 interview with then Governor Ronald Reagan:

REASON: Governor Reagan, you have been quoted in the press as saying that you’re doing a lot of speaking now on behalf of the philosophy of conservatism and libertarianism. Is there a difference between the two?

REAGAN: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path.

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Your characterization of libertarians is entirely incorrect. You obviously missed the one of the key concepts of liberty and freedom - that allowing freedom does not necessarily indicate support for the actions of other people. I presume you are for freedom of religion - if so does that make you a supporter of radical Islam? Or the Westboro Baptist Church? Why not? Well, because you can be for freedom without being "for" what some people choose to do with that freedom.

Of course if you think Ronald Reagan was a "Pro-homosexual agenda, pro-abortion, Islam-enabling, drug tolerant/or using [person] who want[ed] to enfeeble and emasculate the military" then I guess you are welcome to your opinion.

90 posted on 10/04/2010 1:56:45 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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