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To: Celtic Cross

Because we’re libertarians, not conservatives? ;-)

Really, I go back & forth between the two. The final issue for me is personal FREEDOM. I have gay friends I’ve known for years. While I don’t think they need to marry their partner, it’s no skin off my nose if they do. Remove any gov’t subsidy (my tax dollars) & I shouldn’t really care.

Abortion is a harder problem, but it’s not likely we can totally stop it. Better to work on teaching people moral precepts & hope they make right decisions. The left has done so much to make people fear Christians (like conservatives) & for awhile we’ll just have to give them some space until they can come our way willingly.


5 posted on 10/03/2010 6:05:14 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

“Better to work on teaching people moral precepts & hope they make right decisions. The left has done so much to make people fear Christians (like conservatives) & for awhile we’ll just have to give them some space until they can come our way willingly.”

Bears repeating. No one can be forced to do what is right. Just like the Constitution will only govern a moral people, which cannot be legislated. As John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” The problem is immoral loving people allowed communists (read evil worshippers in any form, not limited to Stalinists), further denigrate our society to the point scared and immoral people think that every law that they don’t think directly affercts them, if “Fine as long as you’re doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about,” losing our liberty, until the oppression of Tyranny has become nothing more to them than a suffocating security blanket, but for everyone else it’s an oppressive, lafe and liberty draining, noose.


12 posted on 10/03/2010 6:13:14 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Twotone
Really, I go back & forth between the two. The final issue for me is personal FREEDOM. I have gay friends I’ve known for years. While I don’t think they need to marry their partner, it’s no skin off my nose if they do. Remove any gov’t subsidy (my tax dollars) & I shouldn’t really care.

Abortion is a harder problem, but it’s not likely we can totally stop it. Better to work on teaching people moral precepts & hope they make right decisions. The left has done so much to make people fear Christians (like conservatives) & for awhile we’ll just have to give them some space until they can come our way willingly.


I lean libertarian on many things, but deep inside, I am for conservative morals, but it really isn't the job of the Federal government to do anything about it on an everyday basis. Yes, you can have laws against murder of course and even for libertarians, they is OK since you are harming another person but I just believe the Federal government is there to do certain things like defense, have a road/air traffic system, handle issues between the States and work on foreign policy. You might add a few sundry things like send up a space shuttle or two, but not much beyond that.

Unless we go through the Amendment process on things like gay marriage, the Federal government should be silent on the matter. Same with abortion.

Most of these issues are to be left up for each State to decide and both sides of these issues do have access to the legislative process to change and modify the laws in the States. So it should be up to us who favor traditional marriage to work in the system to preserve it and or change it back while the other side would work to allow homosexual marriage. I know there will be States to where we would lose and we must accept that but I do believe most States would keep traditional marriage. That is the nature of our system under the Constitution.

Abortion, should be up to the States to decide. My own take on it, and I do see it as a libertarian one, is that I'm pro-life. The reason is that life begins at conception and to deny life is wrong, unless there is no other way out after seeking and weighing other options.
65 posted on 10/04/2010 11:28:48 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Twotone

Libertarians, according to their own admission, want homosexuals in the military.

Even though most in the military abhor it.

So I guess a strong military is stupid to libertarians. Or maybe they’re Code Pinkish?


68 posted on 10/04/2010 11:38:32 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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