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To: Twotone
Really, I go back & forth between the two. The final issue for me is personal FREEDOM. I have gay friends I’ve known for years. While I don’t think they need to marry their partner, it’s no skin off my nose if they do. Remove any gov’t subsidy (my tax dollars) & I shouldn’t really care.

Abortion is a harder problem, but it’s not likely we can totally stop it. Better to work on teaching people moral precepts & hope they make right decisions. The left has done so much to make people fear Christians (like conservatives) & for awhile we’ll just have to give them some space until they can come our way willingly.


I lean libertarian on many things, but deep inside, I am for conservative morals, but it really isn't the job of the Federal government to do anything about it on an everyday basis. Yes, you can have laws against murder of course and even for libertarians, they is OK since you are harming another person but I just believe the Federal government is there to do certain things like defense, have a road/air traffic system, handle issues between the States and work on foreign policy. You might add a few sundry things like send up a space shuttle or two, but not much beyond that.

Unless we go through the Amendment process on things like gay marriage, the Federal government should be silent on the matter. Same with abortion.

Most of these issues are to be left up for each State to decide and both sides of these issues do have access to the legislative process to change and modify the laws in the States. So it should be up to us who favor traditional marriage to work in the system to preserve it and or change it back while the other side would work to allow homosexual marriage. I know there will be States to where we would lose and we must accept that but I do believe most States would keep traditional marriage. That is the nature of our system under the Constitution.

Abortion, should be up to the States to decide. My own take on it, and I do see it as a libertarian one, is that I'm pro-life. The reason is that life begins at conception and to deny life is wrong, unless there is no other way out after seeking and weighing other options.
65 posted on 10/04/2010 11:28:48 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

“...but it really isn’t the job of the Federal government to do anything about it on an everyday basis. Yes, you can have laws against murder of course and even for libertarians, they is OK since you are harming another person but I just believe the Federal government is there to do certain things like defense, have a road/air traffic system, handle issues between the States and work on foreign policy. You might add a few sundry things like send up a space shuttle or two, but not much beyond that.

Unless we go through the Amendment process on things like gay marriage, the Federal government should be silent on the matter. Same with abortion.

Most of these issues are to be left up for each State to decide and both sides of these issues do have access to the legislative process to change and modify the laws in the States. So it should be up to us who favor traditional marriage to work in the system to preserve it and or change it back while the other side would work to allow homosexual marriage. I know there will be States to where we would lose and we must accept that but I do believe most States would keep traditional marriage. That is the nature of our system under the Constitution.”

Thank you. Too many people want an over arching FedGov to dictate to people what they can and cannot do. That is the very idea of “liberalism.” The FedGov has a place, and the States have a place, as do counties, and municipalities. The fundamental flaw in getting an over-arching all powerful FedGov, as some are pushing for, is that it is, in very principle, evil, as it abridges man’s ability to choose, eventually....anything. Then, we wind up with moral decay, and the present situation. Under our system of government, the Federal Government is small (the fact that Federal Officials are committing treason and overstepping bounds all over, and that our state officials have been heretofore complicit, is not lost on me), and state governments are small, and the people, not officials reserve the right to give or take POWERS, NOT rights, to government at any level.

People have been trying to live their lives, and ignore what’s going on, largely thinking that as long as they stand in line, they’ll be fine, or worse...be provided for. But this is not the case. Big government never saves, and seldom leaves anything behind. Despots are a dime a dozen, give anyone power, and they’ll gravitate towards it. I firmly believe the Founders did NOT include term limits in our founding documents so that we would learn this one simple fact: Freedom is the responsibility of EVERY generation, and cannot be handed down to the next. Each generation must restore/reinvigorate/refresh/whatever-term-you-please Freedom, because it’s shelf-life is short, and the decay of immorality is ever present. We have to take a stand for what we believe in, each and every day, of each and every year, for each and every generation, or NO SYSTEM of Government, no matter how true, or noble can protect us.


114 posted on 10/05/2010 2:34:31 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Nowhere Man

Nicely said, & I completely agree.


119 posted on 10/05/2010 5:22:55 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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