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To: DJ MacWoW
No one gave them anything.

Temperance Movement. Cotten Mather. Nancy Reagan and "Just say No". Don't give me that BS. That dam was breached long ago and both sides use it to grab MORE for themselves.

Those of us who see smaller government as a good thing are always derided as libertines and hit with all of this crap.

Exactly how are you planning on making government smaller and more Constitutional if you refuse to concede a few of your pet extra-Constitutional powers as well?

The problem with the governing power isn't in how it is currently being used to push a Commie/gay/whatever agenda, it's that the said power exists to be wielded at all.

Art 1 Sec 8 and NOTHING else. No penumbras. No emmanations. A Solid BoR.

There would be nothing for the Commies and the gays to use to push whatever BS de jure they are trying. Moral tyrants would lose that power as well though, and so it will never happen.

Get used to it...

141 posted on 10/06/2010 8:45:56 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: Dead Corpse
Those of us who see smaller government as a good thing are always derided as libertines and hit with all of this crap.

So now the Founding Fathers were nanny staters because they had no problem with outlawed perversion?

143 posted on 10/06/2010 8:50:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Oh and you can deny the infiltration but that doesn't change it.

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

144 posted on 10/06/2010 8:56:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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