[DJ MacWoW]

Those of us who see smaller government as a good thing are always derided as libertines and hit with all of this crap.

So now the Founding Fathers were nanny staters because they had no problem with outlawed perversion?

[Dead Corpse]

Again, show me where the Founders "outlawed" perversion. I must have missed that clause in the Constitution.

Individual communities had a variety of laws. And yet Washington allowed "camp followers" even though VD was a serious issue. Nearly EVERY port town in the colonies had a thriving brothel business and as we both agree Franklin liked the "strumpets" as he reportedly called them.

None of which supports a Federal "gay rights" movement or a moral crusade using the same power against them.

[Melas]

The problem with slinging around words like perversion is that it’s in the eye of the beholder. I have a good friend of the Catholic persuasion, and listening to him most married couples are engaging in perverse and disgusting acts on an almost nightly basis.