Hindus Welcome Julia Roberts Adopting Indian Child

OneIndia ^ | Friday, October 1, 2010

[nickcarraway]

Hindus have welcomed the reports of Oscar winner Hollywood star Julia Roberts (Pretty Woman) trying to adopt a child from India.

Eminent Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, said that he or other Hindu scholars would be glad to guide her through various samskaras (sacraments) for the new child.

Rajan Zed, who is President of Universal Society of Hinduism, pointed out that sources of samskaras, some of which go as far back as 1,500 BCE, were Vedas, Grhyasutras, Dharmasutras, Ramayana, Mahabharata, Puranas and certain other smritis. Overall purpose was to perfect the individual undergoing them and making him/her fit for new stage of life in accordance with dharma.

Roberts, 42, already has three children from her current husband cinematographer Daniel Moder (Grand Champion)—five year old twins Hazel and Phinnaeus and three year old Henry. She, who reportedly suffered complication in past pregnancies, is reportedly in the adoption process. Various other Hollywood stars like Madonna, Meg Ryan, and Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, etc., have also adopted children from abroad.

September issue of women’s fashion magazine Elle reportedly pointed out: The entire Roberts-Moder family, she reveals, goes to temple together to "chant and pray and celebrate. I''m definitely a practicing Hindu," says Roberts, who grew up with a Catholic mother and Baptist father. In an interview with anchor George Stephanopoulos at news program Good Morning America on ABC News on August nine, Roberts said that she did practice Hinduism and added, “Hinduism is something I am very intrigued by and very interested in.”

[television is just wrong]

waited too long to have one of her own?

[television is just wrong]

waited too long to have one of her own?

[dancusa]

The nanny will raise the child. The adopting mom will use the child for all photo ops.

[holyscroller]

Sure hope she doesn’t think this earns her brownie points with God. It won’t. BTW, is she the Left’s idea of a “pretty woman”, cause she sure isn’t mine. She was definately behind the door when “pretty” was being handed out.

[doc1019]

At this point, I would be more interested in the well being of the child. I would hope the child would have a better chance being raised here in the USA then in an orphanage in India. JMHO

[James C. Bennett]

"Says it all.... and her life choices will fall in line with Hindu teachings as we see already."

As in an adoption?

[James C. Bennett]

But couldn’t SOMEONE just once tell the folks in India we don’t give a rat’s rear about their Gods?

I'd suspect the feelings are mutual.

[caww]

There are and will be many speculations on why Roberts decided to adopt a Hindu child..... But obviously the better pick for her to make considering her new found beliefs in Hinduism. I tend to imagine quite possible her Guru had a say in this as well....especially since he will benefit greatly by his work with her....and the child.

[caww]

Actually the feelings are not mutual....the Guru’s in India have for several years an agenda to bring their religious practices to the USA...and incorporate the Christian God into their Temples they build here....which they are currently doing. Hinduism is inclusive by accepting all faiths Gods. They already have a gazillion Gods..so a few more isn’t going to ruffle their feathers at all.

[Yaelle]

Forget how difficult it might be to get to adopt American children. The worst thing about an American adoption is our judges, after a successful adoption has taken place.

Several times, judges have removed a precious child, sometimes as old as 4, from her home, the only home she has ever known, from her only parents, the people who adopted her.

Why? Because the man who ejaculated into the birth mother has turned up, these years later, and didn’t know he had a child. Judges in this country still think that genetics trumps love. It is the most sickening thing you can do to a child, and I do not blame anyone, even the overlipped Julia Roberts, from adopting elsewhere.

[James C. Bennett]

Your point about someone benefiting from behind the scenes might very well be true, but I've not heard of any Hindu temples incorporating Christ, in the US or elsewhere. This is the religion in essence, straight from the Bhagavad-Gita:

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The Bhagavad-Gita   

 

Chapter XII

 

 

ARJUNA: LORD! of the men who serve Thee—true in heart—
As God revealed; and of the men who serve,
Worshipping Thee Unrevealed, Unbodied, far,
Which take the better way of faith and life?
KRISHNA: Whoever serve Me—as I show Myself—	5
Constantly true, in full devotion fixed,
These hold I very holy. But who serve—
Worshipping Me The One, The Invisible,
The Unrevealed, Unnamed, Unthinkable,
Uttermost, All-pervading, Highest, Sure—	10
Who thus adore Me, mastering their sense,
Of one set mind to all, glad in all good,
These blessed souls come unto Me.
Yet, hard
The travail is for whoso bend their minds	15
To reach th’ Unmanifest. That viewless path
Shall scarce be trod by man bearing his flesh!
But whereso any doeth all his deeds,
Renouncing self in Me, full of Me, fixed
To serve only the Highest, night and day	20
Musing on Me—him will I swiftly lift
Forth from life’s ocean of distress and death
Whose soul clings fast to Me. Cling thou to Me!
Clasp Me with heart and mind! so shalt thou dwell
Surely with Me on high. But if thy thought	25
Droops from such height; if thou be’st weak to set
Body and soul upon Me constantly,
Despair not! give Me lower service! seek
To read Me, worshipping with steadfast will;
And, if thou canst not worship steadfastly,	30
Work for Me, toil in works pleasing to Me!
For he that laboreth right for love of Me
Shall finally attain! But, if in this
Thy faint heart fails, bring Me thy failure! find
Refuge in Me! let fruits of labor go,	35
Renouncing all for Me, with lowliest heart,
So shalt thou come; for, though to know is more
Than diligence, yet worship better is
Than knowing, and renouncing better still
Near to renunciation—very near—	40
Dwelleth Eternal Peace!
Who hateth nought
Of all which lives, living himself benign,
Compassionate, from arrogance exempt,
Exempt from love of self, unchangeable	45
By good or ill; patient, contented, firm
In faith, mastering himself, true to his word,
Seeking Me, heart and soul; vowed unto Me,—
That man I love! Who troubleth not his kind,
And is not troubled by them; clear of wrath,	50
Living too high for gladness, grief, or fear,
That man I love! Who, dwelling quiet-eyed,
Stainless, serene, well-balanced, unperplexed,
Working with Me, yet from all works detached,
That man I love! Who, fixed in faith on Me,	55
Dotes upon none, scorns none; rejoices not,
And grieves not, letting good and evil hap
Light when it will, and when it will depart,
That man I love! Who, unto friend and foe
Keeping an equal heart, with equal mind	60
Bears shame and glory, with an equal peace
Takes heat and cold, pleasure and pain; abides
Quit of desires, hears praise or calumny
In passionless restraint, unmoved by each,
Linked by no ties to earth, steadfast in Me,	65
That man I love! But most of all I love
Those happy ones to whom ’tis life to live
In single fervid faith and love unseeing,
Eating the blessèd Amrit of my Being!
Here endeth Chapter XII. of the Bhagavad-Gîtâ,	70
entitled “Bhakityôgô,” or “The Book of
the Religion of Faith.”

[caww]

I'm quite aware of what Hinduism is...as well as what it is not. It is not Christian.

They just recently opened another Temple....and have statues of Mary and catholic Saints throughout...along with all the others common to Hinduism.

It is a religion which incorporates all faiths now...there are no boundaries. It's each man for himself...literally. There is no Salvation as each man earns his way, but then you are also familiar with that...as well as reincarnation plays a primary roll. Sadly the countries who practice this have much disease and many health problems....very underdeveloped and where they are developing it is generally outsiders who are building it up...because the general populations beliefs in Hinduism do not inspire people to succeed. Additionally the attitude is why bother when you will have a second chance and a third via reincarnation. It is a foolish religion...and opposes Christianity by it's teachings.

[caww]

Krishna God....."Worshipping ME The One, The Invisible, The Unrevealed, Unnamed, Unthinkable, Uttermost, All-pervading, Highest, Sure— 10 Who thus adore ME, mastering their sense, Of one set mind to all, glad in all good, These blessed souls come unto ME.

Christ said..."No one can come to the Father but by me." All the excersizes to bring oneness with God via Hinduism will never accomplish the teachings they profess...no one can ever be in God's presense apart from being in Christ...who is alive...all others have died and remain so.

[James C. Bennett]

"There is no Salvation as each man earns his way, but then you are also familiar with that...as well as reincarnation plays a primary roll. Sadly the countries who practice this have much disease and many health problems....very underdeveloped and where they are developing it is generally outsiders who are building it up...because the general populations beliefs in Hinduism do not inspire people to succeed. Additionally the attitude is why bother when you will have a second chance and a third via reincarnation. It is a foolish religion...and opposes Christianity by it's teachings."

Catholic South America is a mysterious anomaly.

[James C. Bennett]

Christ said..."No one can come to the Father but by me." All the excersizes to bring oneness with God via Hinduism will never accomplish the teachings they profess...no one can ever be in God's presense apart from being in Christ...who is alive...all others have died and remain so.

Freeper Blasater1960 makes an interesting argument, here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2594582/posts?page=30#30

How would you respond?

[caww]

The New Covenant indeed has come..through Christ, just as it was written that it would.

There is no Christianity without Christ as central. God oftentimes makes distinctions throughout the Bible and History. Man attempts to integrate those distinctions. It is hard for man to accept those distinctions for since the tower of Babel mankind continues to want to unit man, teachings, faiths, and pretty much everyone and thing. But God continually makes distinctions...and with reason.

Grace and Mercy, salvation and Forgiveness of sin...alone thru Christ is that distinction..there is no other way in ones own efforts to climb up another way....man will constantly fail to meet the mark.

[James C. Bennett]

Thank you for replying!

[Cronos]

Don’t forget that there are MANY in India who are Christians — 40 million+ at the 2000 census (and probably increased now), with 3 states in the North-East being 95 to 100% Baptist, and the southern and western states having 10 to 40% Christians (mostly Catholics with some Anglicans, Methodists and Baptists). So, the “folks in India” also include fellow Christian

[Cronos]

Hardly — many Hindus have a great deal of respect for the teachings of Christ and do follow them, however they incorporate it with their other pantheistic beliefs.

[Cronos]

Hinduism is basically not a religion but a meta-religion, a clubbing of various religions together. It has some commonalities like the Ramayana and Mahabharatha, but those are also not common to all hindu groups and many Hindu gods and goddesses are local deities incorporated into Hinduism -- like Bhavani in Maharashtra, like Ayyappa in Kerala. Also, Hinduism itself has changed from Vedic times when it called Varuna and Agni as Asuras (in the sense of senior Gods), to the post-Vedic period when they became lesser supernatural beings, to the post-Buddhist, Christian contact when the Asuras got relegated to demonic personalities.

Hinduism also incorporated deities like Ganesha who started out as a slightly "evil" (not the right term) figure symbolising the might and strength of raging elephants (around 1 AD we see references to Ganapati as such), to the post-Islamic invasion of the 11th century to Tilak's use of Ganeshutsav as a rallying call against British colonialism.

you also see the incorporation of historic personas into godhood like in the Mahabharatha and Ramayana and also Maheshasura (probably a Greek or Indo-Greek or Gandhara-Bactrian-Indo-Greek warrior with bulls horns on his helmet fighting in Bengal and being repulsed by a local cheiftainess who became Devi/Durga).