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Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut
Posted on 09/30/2010 4:42:39 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Borges; DollyCali
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posted on
09/30/2010 4:43:29 PM PDT
by
EveningStar
(Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
To: EveningStar
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posted on
09/30/2010 4:46:12 PM PDT
by
rbg81
(When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
To: EveningStar
I prefer Superman III - that scene with Clark Kent vs Superman in that junkyard is classic!
To: EveningStar
Donner cut by far ... it’s a shame it wasn’t released like that back then.
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posted on
09/30/2010 5:09:13 PM PDT
by
edh
(I need a better tagline)
To: EveningStar
Lester Lester Lester.
Richard L. is a terrific and underrated filmmaker who made a very moving matinee film with Superman 2. Richard Donner is a hack who made a piece of faceless glop with the original film.
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posted on
09/30/2010 5:10:13 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: edh
Haven’t seen the new cut, what makes it better?
To: edh
You liked that ‘turn back time to fix things’ bit eh?
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posted on
09/30/2010 5:11:15 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: Truthsearcher
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posted on
09/30/2010 5:11:37 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: Borges; edh
You liked that turn back time to fix things bit eh? Was that in the original Puzo screenplay or did Donner add that? That was one of the major weak points of the first movie for me.
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posted on
09/30/2010 5:19:59 PM PDT
by
EveningStar
(Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
To: EveningStar
It was meant to be at the end of the 2nd film to finish off the story told across both films. When they ran out of time and money they decided to stick it in the first film.
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posted on
09/30/2010 5:34:50 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: EveningStar
Richard Lester version.
Both have their pros/cons, good points and flaws, but the Lester version pulled everything together in a much neater and more consistent manner.
At the least, in the Lester version the a**hole trucker and diner patrons REMEMBER Clark Kent when he shows back up and kicks the trucker’s a**.
To: EveningStar
Was that in the original Puzo screenplay or did Donner add that? That was one of the major weak points of the first movie for me.
As a plot device to allow the stereotypical Superman superhero conflict (two major situations to resolve, one involving Lois Lane's saftey, but only enough time to resolve one) to be resolved, I'd agree that the time-travel device was weak.
However, as a way of showing the resolution of the inner conflict between Clark Kent and Kal El (which was foreshadowed early in the movie by the scene where teenage Clark Kent, the football team's towelboy, punts the football into the stratosphere) - with the Clark side winning by setting aside Jor El's philosophy of limited interference in human affairs - it worked out very, very well.
To: EveningStar
Just remember, General Zod rules planet Houston.
Now kneel before Zod!
;-p
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posted on
09/30/2010 5:56:01 PM PDT
by
gogogodzilla
(Live free or die!)
To: Borges
I remember reading that. It’s still dumb. He was supposed to have super powers, not divine powers. :)
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posted on
09/30/2010 6:07:04 PM PDT
by
EveningStar
(Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
To: EveningStar
All I know is never ask for the Donner cut at the Donner party.
To: EveningStar
Neither. After the first “Superman,” they sucked. Except for “Superman Returns”—I thought that movie was great.
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posted on
09/30/2010 6:16:02 PM PDT
by
Future Snake Eater
("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
To: EveningStar
The original Superman was the first “date” movie i ever went to.
I was around 11 years old.
Still, i Like Chris Reeve now but didn’t then and Margot Kidder always grossed me out.
She reminded me of this alcoholic retch that lived in my neighborhood.
Soooooo, yea, i never really liked the Superman movies.
I saw the recent one a few years ago while vacationing in Vermont.
It was pretty good, I liked it. The Movie theater was better though, La-Z boy like seats and booze was served.
Pretty sweet!
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posted on
09/30/2010 6:19:44 PM PDT
by
mowowie
To: EveningStar
Interesting timing. I have the 4 DVD set. Watched them all in past 10 days.
I had a BIG crush on Christopher Reeve. Wore out the old VSH videos on the superman & Somewhere in time
will ping list. A bit discouraged, recently some things I have posted (including a thread this morning on Tony Curtis) have been pulled.
Am I really that naughty?
Thanks for ping sweetie
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posted on
09/30/2010 6:27:12 PM PDT
by
DollyCali
(Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
To: Borges; EveningStar; alwaysconservative; Mr. Blonde; Mr. K; wtc911; swmobuffalo; Rummyfan; ...
Cinema Ping
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posted on
09/30/2010 6:29:35 PM PDT
by
DollyCali
(Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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