Posted on 09/27/2010 2:53:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Since folks still want to discuss the oil spill related issues, this is another open thread. Note that there are a few oil spill related articles in Drumbeat.
(Excerpt) Read more at theoildrum.com ...
As a continuation of the PE discussion from the closed thread:
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posted by Saltwater on September 27, 2010 - 10:02am
As a continuation of the PE discussion from the closed thread:
I have no position on whether oil well engineering should be covered by a specific PE requirement. I do have a position on two other aspects.
First, it does not appear that there was anything illegal about the engineering done by BP on the Macondo well. Stupid, perhaps, but not illegal. No one has pointed to any specific laws or agency rules that were violated by the engineers in the design.*** No one in any of the public inquiries or in the news media has made an issue of engineering licensing.
Second, I am neither defending nor attacking the role of enforcement by competing PEs. What I am saying is that I find it incredulous that an entire industry could be given a pass with the laws simply unenforced. That just ain't gonna happen.
* Obviously the entire spill is a violation of law, but that is not clearly tied to the well design at this point.
* One of the frequent contributors to this discussion believes that the entire negative testing scenario was a violation of BOEMRE rules. However, the discussion led to the conclusion that 30 ppg mud was required for compliance, so something seems a bit off with that rule-breaking interpretation.
* The generic "activities shall be under the responsible charge of a professional engineer" applies across the board in virtually every large industrial corporation. The terminology is a bit vague, as it appears that "responsible charge" is not the same as approving and sealing documents. I do not know what this is intended to mean in real terms, but I do know that a great many non-PE folks work in engineering jobs in industrial corporations.
Why were the pictures of the damages hidden by the media?
Why are people not allowed to dig in the sand or make sand castles?
Why have the people who lost their livlihoods not been paid, and or not paid in full? Obama did confiscate $20 BILLION dollars for a slush fund for that.
We have not forgotten.
More from WSJ and Siobhan Hughes.
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Posted by snakehead on September 27, 2010 - 1:55pm
“Why have the people who lost their livlihoods not been paid, and or not paid in full?”
Because they haven’t disclosed true income on their taxes every year and now they can’t prove loss.
Thanks for the updates Ernie. Clearly we continue to get two diverse opinions as to where oil may still remain and in what quantities and form.
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