How might I make that observation without “putting you down?” “
Have you ever heard of respectfully disagreeing?
I fail to see where any apostle harassed people who did not agree with them, resorted to name calling or putting unbelievers down to their face. You will be hard pressed to have others believe in UFO’s and aliens.
Since I am a Bible based Christian, allow me to show you how Paul handled things with nonbelievers.
Go to Acts chapter 17
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[2] And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
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I see your reaction to people that don't agree with being this:
[5] But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people.
(While you didn't replicate the same actions.
Your attitude is the same.)
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[32] And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.
(Yes, people don't accept aliens and UFO’s and don't view CNN as credible. So between the subject and the sources, I find no credibility with your belief in aliens or UFO’s.)
[33] So Paul departed from among them.
These people were idolaters and very superstitious as believing in aliens and UFO’s are today. I resolutely reject such nonsense because there is no compelling evidence to support it. Like Paul, I move on. I don't need to be arrogant to people, resort to name calling, or putting people down that don't agree with me.
A debate has TRUTH for it's basis. The Bible was Paul's truth. Nothing in the Bible indicates aliens or UFO’s either. Your argument lacks truth and credibility. Your view of this is based on speculation, itching ears and superstition. Again, I reject that. I have read articles on this so it is not as though I am unfamiliar with the topic and each time the "evidence" isn't there. Since then I have become more versed in teh Bible and see this as an unholy distraction and wnat no parts of it.
2 Timothy 2:14 is a good verse for debating advice.
[14] Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
Is there truly something to gain by forcing your views of about aliens and UFO's on them? It's not Biblical. Does it really make sense to harass and be disrespectful to others on such a silly topic?
You may try to argue with me that you are not doing this and I am telling you, as a recipient, that this is how myself and others see what you are doing with your approach. So you may go on and believe that you are not being arrogant, vindictive, a name caller and putting people down - I say you are and also state this is not necessary and hurts you.
All you do is succeed in alienating people with your pings on this particular topic. Strong feelings and emotions that you have, for wanting others to believe in aliens and UFO's are NOT evidence for it, nor does the Bible support your views on this topic.
I have seen you be very effective on other topics but this one falls short. It's also unimportant in the grand scheme of life. I believe, and this is my opinion, that time would be better spent getting souls on board before the Rapture - through criticism of Obama, his polices and contrast them to Christianity etc.. I have seen you be effective on that. Friend, focus on what you do better ... avoid the alien and UFO pushing ... it serves no good purpose.
Please remember to remove me from you FR -e-mail ping list and FR forum ping list.
Thanks!
I may not get to a robust response until this evening.
I greatly appreciate your thoughtful and candid responses.
You make many good Biblical points.
nmh:[5] But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people.
(While you didn’t replicate the same actions.
Your attitude is the same.)
I don’t think you have a very accurate sense of my attitude.
However, it is enough that I clearly behave in a way which leaves you that conclusion.
I’ll have to prayerfully ponder whether there’s really any worthwhile goal worth the hazard of that misperception, or not. You may be totally right that it’s not worth it.
A lot of my UFO thread tones etc. are from fierce opposition to the fiercely assaultive naysayers on such threads. That’s no sufficient excuse. It is an awareness you have helped me have. Thank you.
I would like to note that I don’t think some facts are easily communicable without SOME individuals FEELING put down regardless of the wording.
nmh:
I resolutely reject such nonsense because there is no compelling evidence to support it
That’s simply not a factual statement. However, I realize there’s nothing I can offer you which will influence you toward a different perspective. Events will have to do that.
That kind of . . . uhhh . . . fierce conviction regardless of the evidence
is another part of what pushes my fierce reply buttons.
Actually, the topic is quite Biblical . . . Genesis 6 particularly . . .
Certainly it is far from silly given all the evidence and the globalist implications.
Shouldn’t I, consistent with your pattern of response, consider “silly” a put down to me?
Actually, The Bible is quite supportive of my perspective.
AS I’VE ALREADY NOTED, I HAVE ALREADY REMOVED YOU FROM THE END TIMES LIST. I DON’T KNOW OF YOU BEING ON ANY OTHER.