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Shocking revelation: Former Air Force personnel disclose UFO, alien-related threats
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Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren

(NECN: Washington) - A press conference was held this afternoon at the National Press Club in Washington, where at least a dozen former U.S. Air Force personnel, mostly officers who worked on secret projects connected to sensitive nuclear weapons sites, are admitting that they were privy to UFO and alien-related incidents -- that occurred during their time of service.

In this clip, you will hear from: Retired Air Force Captain Robert Salas, Former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dwayne Arneson and Former Air Force Official Bill Jameson

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TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: humor; missiles; panstarrs; quix; qx; ufo; usaf
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To: nmh; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

Yet, if any Proddy dares to form an opinion of a Roman Catholic document, pronoucement, encyclical or page of the Catechism

WITHOUT READING IT,

The wailing is extreme.

In this case, I’ll just note that your assumptions appear to be grossly flawed.

And your seeming resistence to learning something is a bit dreadful.

BTW, this was several notches beyond what has gone before.

Just the fact that CNN covered it as it did should have been some clue . . .

of course . . . only for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.


361 posted on 09/29/2010 8:49:11 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thanks thanks.


362 posted on 09/29/2010 8:49:43 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: roamer_1

Maybe The Lord will bless me with a benefactor! LOL.

Lots of slots for decreasing book monies! LOL. I’ll see what I can do. Sounds like it is worth it.


363 posted on 09/29/2010 8:50:44 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Michael Barnes

Thanks.

I think so, too.


364 posted on 09/29/2010 8:51:10 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: marbren

ping for later.


365 posted on 09/29/2010 9:17:19 PM PDT by this is my country
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To: this is my country; ALASKA; A knight without armor; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

I THINK THE VIDEOS ARE WORTH IT.

Here’s a collection I have from today’s scans . . .

IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY LINKS TO SUGGEST, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I’ve finally begun such a file at the end of my WORD UFO ping list.


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/11960/THE_SS_BROTHERHOOD_OF_THE_BELL__Pt_1_12/
There are several videos on this report
http://theintelhub.com/2010/09/27/u-s-military-pilots-at-the-national-press-club-ufos-deactivated-nukes/
Robert Salas UFO Press Conference 9/27/10 Nukes Deactivated (pt1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqzoC3QPI_E&feature=player_embedded
Dwayne Arneson UFO Nukes Deactivated Press Conference 9/27/10 (pt 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiMqFE1ar20&feature=player_embedded
Former Air Force Official Bill Jameson UFO/Nukes Press Conference 9/27/10 (pt 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv25GLakkf4&feature=player_embedded

27 SEP 2010 NATIONAL PRESS CLUB CONFERENCE WASH DC
MILITARY EXPERIENCERS RE UFO’S N NUKE MISSILES N STORAGE AREAS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7w_FOVbCBc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k51EmJ3YsQQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb-SVPJM4L4

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2010/09/ap-Former-Air-Force-officers-discuss-UFO-sightings-092710/
CNN VERSION:
http://blip.tv/file/4172861
ANOTHER VERSION:
http://www.necn.com/09/27/10/Shocking-revelation-Former-Air-Force-per/landing.html?blockID=319245&feedID=4213
YOUTUBE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7w_FOVbCBc

CHINESE UFO INCIDENT:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/China/UFO-in-China-has-military-connection-Official/articleshow/6146544.cms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash-Landrum_incident
CNN VERSION:
http://blip.tv/file/4172861
ANOTHER LINK:
http://www.necn.com/09/27/10/Shocking-revelation-Former-Air-Force-per/landing.html?blockID=319245&feedID=4213
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7voVPsPLT1M
Fox news announcing the event this morning.
OUT OF THE BLUE—EPISODE 4 OUT OF 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKUujsYE5qo&NR=1
TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE WESTERN WORLD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I196e-Nnc0&feature=related
TURKISH UFO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQphqeeCC4
CLASSIFIED RUSSIAN UFO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBw8UCX7XUk&NR=1

CHARLES HALT:
NATIONAL PRESS CLUB:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewvideo.php?id=jxdNsSwMeDQ&tid=190543
OTHER:
2ND PAGE OF LISTINGS HERE:
http://www.dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/!22CHARLES%20HALT!22%20!2B%20VIDEOS!2BUFO’S/2/0/0/Relevance/zoom=off/qi=21/qk=20/bepersistence=true/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true

http://ufovideo.blogspot.com/

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewvideo.php?id=jxdNsSwMeDQ&tid=190543
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1109964/historys_ufo_hunters_2_27_military_vs_ufos_radio/
http://www.realufos.net/
http://www.strangeunknown.com/tag/force/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1315620/US-airman-Charles-Halts-UFO-testimony-encounter-near-UK-nuclear-base.html

FREEPER PERSONAL UFO EXPERIENCES

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2597355/posts?page=58#58


366 posted on 09/29/2010 9:49:15 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/11960/THE_SS_BROTHERHOOD_OF_THE_BELL__Pt_1_12/

This is interesting too.


367 posted on 09/29/2010 10:35:40 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: nolongerademocrat

INDEED. Thanks.


368 posted on 09/30/2010 4:10:33 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
“Yet, if any Proddy dares to form an opinion of a Roman Catholic document, pronoucement, encyclical or page of the Catechism

WITHOUT READING IT,

The wailing is extreme.”

Personally speaking some Roman Catholic documents I would be in agreement with, however “sinless” Mary is not one of them.

Rom.3:23

[23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The “all” as stated in the New Testament include Mary.

Yes, even in Sir. a book viewed to be UNINSPIRED by both the Jews and Bible based Christians, only the LORD is righteous! Still that escapes Catholics. It is also not an issue of “inference”. You cannot “infer” that Mary is without sin, when you have other verses that clarify Mary. Mary contributed the SIN half of Christ who over came all sin since no other human being could.

Sir.18:2

[2] The Lord only is righteous, and there is none other but he,

Rom.3:10

[10] As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Again, even in an INSPRIED book of the Bible, Mary is not “righteous” either. The word “none” includes Mary and again this is in the New Testament.

“In this case, I’ll just note that your assumptions appear to be grossly flawed.”

You're “assumptions” have no standing. So you may consider me “flawed”. That's just mild name calling but I can deal with that.

“And your seeming resistence to learning something is a bit dreadful.”

Again, putting people down that don't agree with you is also nothing new. It discredits you but you don't see that since your emotions are ruling you.

Do I need to learn about abortion to figure out if it is wrong? No! I know enough already and the same applies to your pushing UFO and little green men. Yes, I'm sprinkling in some humor about the little green men.

“BTW, this was several notches beyond what has gone before.”

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to putting people down and simple minded name calling when others don't agree with you.

“Just the fact that CNN covered it as it did should have been some clue . . .”

Yes, when CNN covers it, it is a huge clue. I don't watch CNN because they have no credibility and I certainly wouldn't give them credibility with this either. Perhaps they are looking for a rating spike? They are in the toilet when it comes to credibility and ratings.

“of course . . . only for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.”

Again, you may believe you are superior if you want to believe in UFS’s and get your news from CNN. I beg to differ however I will not stoop to name calling and ridicule when your “evidence” falls way short and your sources are not credible. Many times people look for attention. Maybe this will satisfy their few minutes of fame and attention.

In this case, I’ll just note that your assumptions appear to be grossly flawed.

And your seeming resistence to learning something is a bit dreadful.

BTW, this was several notches beyond what has gone before.

Just the fact that CNN covered it as it did should have been some clue . . .

of course . . . only for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

369 posted on 09/30/2010 5:54:02 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Quix
Could you also remove me from your private ping list on FR on the forum and through FR e-mail. I really don't need this liberal like harassment. Clearly we see things differently and you are unable to respectfully disagree.

Thank you!

370 posted on 09/30/2010 6:00:31 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Quix

Richard C. Hoagland was on Coast to Coast last night talking about disclosure. “Disclosure should be about more than just UFOs,” he suggested, “—it needs to include aliens, human relatives, our suppressed ancient history, and the hidden history of our solar system. He also lauded the new NBC series The Event for dealing with disclosure issues.”

I HADN’T HEARD ABOUT “The Event” but there are videos on the website here: http://www.nbc.com/the-event/


371 posted on 09/30/2010 6:54:27 AM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: nmh

LOL.

Love it . . . some candid comments more than cryptic.

I’d forgotten you were on the End Times list. You’ve been taken off per your request.


More or less Agreed about the RC’s dogma etc.

Agree that CNN is an outrageously untrustworthy outlet. AS are all the MSM.

However, you seem to have missed the point.

1. CNN made it a BIG DEAL. CNN could only do that on orders from the same folks who control the UFO technologies. You are welcome to consider that inconsequential and to have no effect or influence on your life when the dust settles.

2. A vast amount of evidence indicates that’s a very foolish and uninformed assumption.

3. I have lots of respect for individuals. Even folks who mean-spiritedly assault me routinely are not at all difficult for me to care for.

4. Some perspectives and attitudes are clueless, uninformed idiotic, dangerous to those holding them etc. and greatly warrant ridicule etc.

5. This issue is going to effect many aspects of life on our planet and given the CNN signal—a LOT sooner than I’d prefer by far.

6. Pretending that such realities are well enough known from a great, largely ignorant, distance as to leave one set quite well no matter what’s coming down the Pike about them is a pretty significant risk, from where I sit.

7. I don’t recall how well you know about the topic. The attitude you seemed to display earlier in the thread seemed alarmingly dismissive. I’d rather have folks mad at me yet awakened to such realities than the other way around. The singed tail feathers from blind ignorance about these looming realities may not be pretty, spiritually or otherwise.

Cheers.


372 posted on 09/30/2010 7:30:18 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Bookwoman

Thanks.

Thanks for the link.

I think he’s right about THE EVENT being used to signal things.

He may well be right about so much of the truly hidden history, artifacts etc.

I think his assumptions about same are wrong.


373 posted on 09/30/2010 7:33:09 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: nmh

“And your seeming resistence to learning something is a bit dreadful.”

Again, putting people down that don’t agree with you is also nothing new. It discredits you but you don’t see that since your emotions are ruling you.


Perhaps you could edumacate my ignorance.

How might I make that observation without “putting you down?”


374 posted on 09/30/2010 7:36:34 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: kjo

“things which can’t be explained.”

Our brains are 2 pounds of wet goo.
There’s a lot that can’t be understood.


375 posted on 09/30/2010 7:42:59 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: ctdonath2

About the consistency of jellow about 70% set.

Makes good cycle helmets great wisdom . . . latest technology with outter skin that slips over the inner shell.


376 posted on 09/30/2010 8:09:08 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Quix, This is where I still remain confused. I have asked on the other thread if the ET’s are fallen angels/demons which you have responded that you believe they are with leaving open a 1% chance that they could be “citizens of another planet”...I agree that they are fallen angels/demons but do not agree that they might be from another planet. So on this point we seem to disagree on “1%”. My disagreement stems from an understanding that as fallen angels/demons they are doing the bidding of the Father of lies and as such they are working on deceiving mankind...on this point I believe we are in agreement from your responses to me. If they are actively working on the deception of mankind, then it really does not matter who experiences the deception...military officers, pastors, farmers, etc. since we all can be deceived. As a result I do not put more importance on the statements by these officers then I do anyone else...if the evidence was designed to deceive then the result will be deception.

The question then becomes; how do we avoid being deceived? The only place that I know of that has 100% truth is in the Scriptures, so that is where I start as I view the world around me...hence my screen name. By holding onto the truth that is clearly in Scripture it will steer me away from deception. I see no where in Scripture that God mentions, discusses, or warns us about ET’s. If they are to take on a major role of causing deception, death, and destruction of mankind then I would think that God would at least give us some warning...but He does warn us about Satan and his followers...

1 Peter 5:8-9 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

My point would be to clearly identify the adversary...Satan and his followers, the fallen angels/demons. Then we can offer the security that God offers instead of the information gained by the deceivers that leads to fear.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Psalms 4:8 I will lie down and sleep in peace, for you alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety.

John 14:27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

Psalms 27:14 Wait on the Lord; be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the Lord.

John 10:27-30 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.

1 Peter 5:7 Cast all your anxiety on Him because He cares for you.

Psalms 46:1-2 God is our refuge and strength, an ever present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear...

Philippians 4:7-8 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus. Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things.

377 posted on 09/30/2010 9:09:25 AM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: Quix
My goal was not to annoy but to share truth. I was not trying to imply that you were not warning people but was trying to point out that the message is confusing. We do not need to study the counterfeit in order to know the TRUTH. I will admit that I have not read all of your thousands of posts over the years but from what I have read on the issue of ET’s I fail to see clear warnings until somebody asks a question. My suggestion, which you do not have to accept, would be to lead with the TRUTH.

I am not sure where the horse came into the discussion, but if you really do not want to continue these discussions with me then I would offer one more suggestion...stop pinging me onto these posts...:)

378 posted on 09/30/2010 9:24:44 AM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: WorldviewDad

THANKS THANKS.

WONDERFUL SCRIPTURES, OF COURSE.

1. Am not interested in triggering fears. Am interested in helping minimize fears.

2. I believe that when the critters and their craft and the implications of their involvement with the global government sinks in, many folks will be—AS SCRIPTURE SAYS—find their hearts failing them for fear.

3. The best available warnings about what’s looming ahead CAN HELP A LOT TOWARD DECREASING THE FEAR responses of people. Usually, the unexpected and shocking winds up fears the most. Helping believers understand what is looming on the near horizon can minimize the fears involved for millions of Believers and others.

4. It would be nice to say that our 100% utter focus on God and His faithfulness would neutralize 100% of all our fears for 100% of all believers. Alas, I’m not even to that exalted state yet and I know plenty of other believers who are not, either. Wonderful if you are.

5. We know from Scripture that perfect Love casts out fear. Too often Believers are made to feel that somehow they have to crank up a more perfect love to fear less. I don’t think that’s an accurate interpretation. God is the only perfect lover. WHEN WE EXPERIENCE HIS LOVE MORE PERFECTLY, THE FEAR GOES. And we are not in charge of that, He is. We can jump through all the spiritual disciplines possible as many hours a day as possible and we may not greatly EXPERIENCE HIS PERFECT LOVE ALL THAT MUCH MORE. It is still His turf. And it has to be experience—usually repeated experiences. Intellectualizing about it; memorizing Scriptures about it just doesn’t make it happen.

6. Of course the military ranks do not preclude being deceived. My point about that was only that FOR THOSE WHO STILL DENY THAT THE CRITTERS AND THEIR TECHNOLOGIES EXIST, we now have higher ranks of people openly insisting that at least the craft with very extremely unusual properties do. That means there is a shrinking region to hide in to pretend that such do not exist. That’s all. Many naysayers on these threads have derisively accused believers in such of being drunken brainless hillbillies. That’s very far from the truth. Always has been far fromt he truth. Now, that’s been demonstrated more convincingly how untrue it is.

7. Being deceived into believing they do NOT exist at all is one kind of deception. I hope you are not still deceived on that score.

8. Being deceived into believing that they are nice critters here to save mankind &/or the planet is a whole different sort of deception. Thankfully, you are not deceived on that score. Many still are. I work to disabuse them of that deception.

9 I think your assumptions about what God would and would not warn us about specifically are flawed. He has His reasons and He does not always share such reasons in Scripture or otherwise.

10. He does discuss them in Genesis and in Enoch.

Thanks for your reasoned and kind reply.


379 posted on 09/30/2010 9:38:40 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: WorldviewDad

I MUCH PREFER to engage in dialogue with you.

It might be that I could emphasize the TRUTHS OF SCRIPTURE more . . . though leading a post with such will scare away many of those I most want to reach.

The horse came into the picture because it SEEMED LIKE your tone had become somewhat that way. And I got weary of it.

Many of my posts have been much more concentrated on getting folks to realize the FACTS, REALITIES involved first and the deceptive aspect 2nd.

If one doesn’t think there’s anything real involved, then the deception discussion is moot.

I’m not yet clear on how much of the realities you realize are true realities—truth about the phenomena.


380 posted on 09/30/2010 9:51:29 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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