Posted on 09/27/2010 9:40:32 AM PDT by pgyanke
The officers need to be charge with murder and put to death.
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And the police wonder why law-abiding citizens grow more and more hostile towards the extortionist authorities, even during routine department fundraising stops.
I’ve had to disarm a guy, post IAF, working reserve checkpoint duty. (It’s what happen to old guys who still want to serve.)
The smartest guy I ever saw ignored our commands to drop his weapon, instead kept his hands WAY over his head, fingers spread, turned around, then slowly dropped to his knees.
(It turned out to be a Druze legally carrying a weapon.)
Sad story. One thing for sure that I know is once they said for me to get down. I would have gotten down and then definitely would NOT move to get the weapon. I would have just stayed on the ground until the situation was under control. Every weapons shooting I read has the person reaching for something. Why reach? The police said get down....that is all. Nothing about taking out the gun. Prayers to his family.
This is a horrific tragedy. Man, what is wrong with the little creeps who shot this man?
He was murdered at Cosco by three serial killers with badges. And to make sure he was dead, they fired additional shots into his back as he lay on his stomache in the process of dying.
The police said get down.
They also shouted drop your weapon. (according to the article)
They gave conflicting commands and then shot the guy for complying.
They will walk on this one.
Just to be curious, did you really command that person to touch his weapon? If so, why?
Everyone involved in the shooting and subsequent destruction of evidence needs to be indicted, tried and convicted.
Even without the video evidence, this account of what happened rings much more truthful than the reports of Erik “going on a rampage” inside the store.
From observation, it seems that police unions are among the staunchest supporters of violating the 2nd Amendment and wish to disarm the public.
If they cannot accomplish this by law, then they can accomplish it by making the penalty for gun possession so severe—via public execution by cop—that people will become too afraid to exercise their right to carry. If the sentiment is that you will be shot if you carry in public, then concealed carry will cease.
It’s ironic that the police will execute a law-abiding citizen, without trial, but protect convicted murderers in prison for life with three square meals, cable tv, and conjugal visits.
Scott’s weapon was a Kimber 1911-type gun. It had its hammer down after the shooting, which means Scott was carrying with no round in the chamber. To fire it, he would have had to pull the gun, rack the slide, and then fire.
It may be that since he was aware it was impossible to shoot his gun without several steps, he didn’t think about how a cop - not knowing what type weapon it was - would interpret an attempt to disarm. Or maybe he thought that was the simplest was to calm things down.
Could the cop legally fire as soon as he touched the weapon? Maybe. If the cop believed his life was in danger, then yes - even ‘tho Scott obviously (in retrospect) had no intent to shoot. However, a cop so spring loaded to shoot that he didn’t notice the movements were slow, or that the gun was still in its holster (the cop who started the shooting testified he didn’t know the gun was in a holster until after the shooting was over), is a cop who needs to find a new line of work.
The cop has shot 3 times in 4 years, killing 2. There is no way he has the right temperament or judgment for being a cop.
As for the other two - if you continue to fire after the guy is face down on the ground, you aren’t ready to be a cop either. Find other work until you gain some self-control and judgment.
This “account” from someone with a vested interest in the case is wildly out of step from the accounts of numerous witnesses at the Corner’s inquest.
“Just to be curious, did you really command that person to touch his weapon? If so, why?”
Yes, it was “Shows us your weapon,” and that is because that is what we were told to do.
I was a pilot for 15 years; basically a civilian pulling guard duty -— my ground training involved running away and hiding.
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“The police said get down.
They also shouted drop your weapon. (according to the article)
They gave conflicting commands and then shot the guy for complying.”
This should be the family attorneys opening statement....
Can you provide links to the most credible accounts? I think that would add to the thread better than a non-specific contradiction.
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