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And Statistics ... (War On Drugs hysteria)
National Review Online ^ | 9/26/2010 | Andrew Stuttaford

Posted on 09/27/2010 7:19:45 AM PDT by bassmaner

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Love Bill Bennett's morning show, but have to turn him off when he becomes as statist as any out-of-the-closet leftist when the issue of illegal drugs is raised.
1 posted on 09/27/2010 7:19:47 AM PDT by bassmaner
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Just bet him that he is wrong.....

(snicker)


2 posted on 09/27/2010 7:24:24 AM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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LOL!


3 posted on 09/27/2010 7:25:34 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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Love Bill Bennett's morning show, but have to turn him off when he becomes as statist as any out-of-the-closet leftist when the issue of illegal drugs is raised.

Leftists are all pro legalizing drugs, that is one of the left's fundamental principals, like outlawing abortion is to conservatives.

4 posted on 09/27/2010 7:29:02 AM PDT by ansel12 ([fear of Islam.] Once you are paralyzed by fear of Mohammedanism...you have lost the battle.)
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Nevermind that. Ask all of these “return to Constitutional limits” people where the Constitutional power can be found that authorized the Controlled Substance Act or the DEA. The best they can do is say the Commerce Clause,which puts them on all fours with FDR and the worst liberals we’ve ever had. So it goes.


5 posted on 09/27/2010 7:29:28 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the minority? A: They're complaining about the deficit.)
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“Could it be because killing yourself with a marijuana overdose would require rather more energy than most stoners can manage? Food for thought,”

Hehe hehe hehe hehe. Stoned. Food. MUNCHIES! I’ve got dibs on the White Castles! LOL.

You could never get that stoned. You’d pass out first. Or forget where you put your stash.


6 posted on 09/27/2010 7:31:06 AM PDT by rickb308 (I love watching libruls heads explode as they see their dogma run over by their karma.)
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FReepers LOVE the big government Commerce Clause.

They help keep the left in power because without the New Deal Commerce Clause, you need a Prohibition Amendment.

FReepers love the War on Drugs more than they dislike Socialism.

Bennett is a tool of the Left.

I win the debate.


7 posted on 09/27/2010 7:35:48 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL OR REBEL! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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And they are against tobacco, booze, gambling and other personal vice like stuff too that the Constitution says are illegal....

Or did no one here get that addendum?


8 posted on 09/27/2010 7:36:02 AM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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Right, before the leftist/libertarians made their massive gains in the 1960s and after, the American people were very conservative, and maintained control over their culture and vice laws.


9 posted on 09/27/2010 7:42:02 AM PDT by ansel12 ([fear of Islam.] Once you are paralyzed by fear of Mohammedanism...you have lost the battle.)
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Leftists are all pro legalizing drugs

They are just waiting until they have enough power that they don't need your support of the nanny state and New Deal Commerce clause anymore. Then you'll have drugs and socialism - until the socialists need more workers to keep the machines running and don't need the doper vote to stay in power - then you'll have drug-free puritanical communism and no vote like the old Soviet Union.
10 posted on 09/27/2010 7:45:49 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL OR REBEL! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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Leftists are all pro legalizing drugs, that is one of the left's fundamental principals

The first national drug prohibition law was passed 1914 and signed into law by Woodrow Wilson.

The first national marijuana prohibition law was passed in 1937 and signed into law by FDR.

Che Guevara constantly railed against drugs and alcohol because they inhibited 'revolutionary fervor'.

Now what side's 'fundamental principles' are being violated by the re-legalization of certain drugs?

11 posted on 09/27/2010 7:53:41 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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“Leftists are all pro legalizing drugs, “

I’m not sure of this. The left in Congress vote in all the tough dope laws. Nobody runs on a pro-dope platform that I know of (except the fringe parties, Peace&Freedom, www.maybelogic.com/gunsanddopeparty/ )


12 posted on 09/27/2010 7:56:57 AM PDT by DBrow
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Since the abuse of prescription drugs is included in this drug abuse statistic, are you against prescriptions being required for any substance?

If they were over the counter, insurance companies would cheer because they wouldn’t have to offer a “co-pay” anymore.

There are nations that have such policy.


13 posted on 09/27/2010 8:02:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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You really are not aware that it is the left that drives the pro dope position? That is your honest confession?


14 posted on 09/27/2010 8:36:13 AM PDT by ansel12 ([fear of Islam.] Once you are paralyzed by fear of Mohammedanism...you have lost the battle.)
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I didn’t notice you denying that “Leftists are all pro legalizing drugs, that is one of the left’s fundamental principals”.


15 posted on 09/27/2010 8:40:35 AM PDT by ansel12 ([fear of Islam.] Once you are paralyzed by fear of Mohammedanism...you have lost the battle.)
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It's appropriate to ask whether the criminalization of drugs is an legitimate Constitutional function of the Federal government. In my opinion the answer to that is no.

The fact that some leftists may want to decriminalize drugs on a Federal level does not, repeat not, make the opposite position a Constitutional one.

16 posted on 09/27/2010 8:52:38 AM PDT by Notary Sojac
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Since the drug trade is an international war against America involving dozens of nations, it would be pretty hard to deal with it on a purely state by state basis. Nebraska might like Afghan Opium and Cannabis products but them dealing directly with Afghanistan or for Colombian Cocaine supplies would sure complicate things.


17 posted on 09/27/2010 9:08:34 AM PDT by ansel12 ([fear of Islam.] Once you are paralyzed by fear of Mohammedanism...you have lost the battle.)
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My limited look at voting records suggests that the lefties in congress frequently vote for anti-drug laws.

On the state level, the recent vote to ban salvia in Delaware was supported by dems and pubbies.


18 posted on 09/27/2010 9:08:58 AM PDT by DBrow
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You do not think that the left is the primary force behind pushing the pro drug agenda in America?


19 posted on 09/27/2010 9:12:47 AM PDT by ansel12 ([fear of Islam.] Once you are paralyzed by fear of Mohammedanism...you have lost the battle.)
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I don’t know. Why do you think they are?


20 posted on 09/27/2010 9:25:41 AM PDT by DBrow
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