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[Vanity] - Why is Illegal Immigration Wrong?
09/17/2010 | Personal

Posted on 09/17/2010 11:40:59 PM PDT by hylandia

I live in San Francisco, and I think you all know what that implies. I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal and nearly everyone I interact with daily is as well. I read Free Republic most days to try to understand why Obamacare is so hated, and why the Ground Zero Mosque is taking such flak. And to be honest, I understand most of the viewpoints here. I don't agree, but I understand. The only one I don't understand is the very, very strong opposition to illegal immigration. Is it strictly a legal opposition? Workers that flaunt our laws at the border are likely to flaunt others? Or are there other reasons? I promise not to post again... so the zotting is a foregone response. I am just very interested in exactly why you feel that illegal immigration is so wrong.


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To: hylandia
The only one I don't understand is the very, very strong opposition to illegal immigration.

Perhaps this picture will clear things up:

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41 posted on 09/17/2010 11:59:50 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: hylandia

What is your address? Leave the door open and I’ll bring over a dozen people and we’ll take advantage of your hospitality. Leave the credit cards on the kitchen counter.


42 posted on 09/17/2010 11:59:56 PM PDT by unkus
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To: hylandia

Illegal aliens commit crimes. I can’t give you the numbers but in many states the majority of wanted murderers and drug dealers are illegal aliens. You’ve heard of MS-13 perhaps? A sizeable percentage of our prison population is composed of illegal aliens. Drunk driving, public urination and child molestation are practically Mexican cultural traditions, or so it would seem from reading the crime stats. The PC types love to profile salt-of-the-earth types when they do media segments but statistically the overall profile of illegals is decidedly weighted towards the undesirable end of the scale.

Illegal aliens do not have anything invested in this country so they trash the place. If you’re just passing through you don’t have any interest in the long-term welfare of the neighborhood you happen to be living in and you behave accordingly.


43 posted on 09/18/2010 12:01:30 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: onyx

Still my Birthday, in my time zone.

For 7 more minutes.

Thanks!


44 posted on 09/18/2010 12:01:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: hylandia

1) Because the taxpayers have the right to exclude people from adding to the burden they already bear. The courts have (wrongly) ruled that anyone residing here is not just elligible for all the same free bennies paid for by taxpayers as anyone else, but in most cases MUST be be provided them

2) Because citizens have the right to exclude those from their community those who may not be loyal to it, who may not share their values, goals and allegiances. The citizens collectively are the Sovereign Power over the territory of the nation, and so have the right to allow or deny permission to enter.

3) Because the PRIVILEGE of being allowed to reside here should be FAIRLY ALLOCATED AMONG ALL THE WORLD’S PEOPLES. It is TOTALLY UNFAIR that those who don’t have to get on a boat or plane to come here should be allowed to take up all the available slots.


45 posted on 09/18/2010 12:02:13 AM PDT by sourcery (Don't call them "liberals" or "progressives." The honest label is extreme anti-Constitutionalists!)
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To: oblomov; hylandia

I should have added:

The problem with what the Dems and the country-club Republicans want is this: it creates social disruption and an environment of lawlessness, only to serve their own nefarious ends.


46 posted on 09/18/2010 12:02:13 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Islander7

I____ zot


47 posted on 09/18/2010 12:02:32 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: hylandia
Every entity that perpetuates itself has a border and controls what crosses that border. Look to the natural world. Cells have membranes, or walls. Cells with comparatively weak borders allow viral infection and horizontal gene transfer; they are destroyed, or their essential nature is changed by outside influences. Cells with stronger borders maintain their essential nature, survive, and prosper. Conservatives like the idea of America, wish to conserve its essential nature, and that requires maintaining a strong border.

If the natural analogy doesn't appeal to you, consider any organization of which you are a voluntary member--professional organizations, etc. These organizations set the standards for who may join and who is excluded. You probably approve of this. Certainly no one is arguing for illegal enrollment into the bar, for instance. Why, then, do some support illegal immigration? I consider the community of Americans to be far nobler than the aforementioned organization, and I believe we should define the requirements for joining this community and enforce them.

48 posted on 09/18/2010 12:03:14 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: hylandia
It's an illegal migration to the US which dwarfs all previous migration waves by proportion....much much more so.

It's unsustainable just in pure numbers...we cannot assimilate the third world even though assimilation doesn't seem high on the to do list for this latest bunch.

That and the fact that they now usually vote leftist 80% like yourself further guaranteeing that we will end up with an even more lopsided society where those who receive from taxes far outweigh those who pay them. The only recent immigrants of note who tend to vote conservative tend to be Vietnamese, Sikhs and first and second generation Cubans....nearly all else take a quick left turn. This troubles conservatives here...or at least it should. Some GOP in the past were foolish enough to think that since many of these latino immigrants are Catholic that they would be conservative...foolish boys...they didn't even bother to check Catholic voting stats before releasing that canard or they might have known better...that would be the former Bush administration...yep...the one you probably hated. They were barely any better than Barack on this issue.

Not to mention the burden on the government services that even conservatives too agree should be a part of a reasonable Republic.

No nation can survive without enforcing it's borders, it's collective culture and it collective language.

Study the fall of the Romans and later the Celts and Saxons in that order for instruction.

The Left believes that the West in general and America in particular is one huge tapestry of a crime against humanity of a racist bigoted sexist and Christian nature. Were the illegals in question white Christian males then I doubt you would hear a peep from the Left or RINOs to not prosecute existing Federal statutes and stop their streaming over our borders.

Hence the racial component to this....this is a backdoor way to mandate whites to minority status as a means of redress for all this history the Left propagates and feeds from and guarantee themselves a super majority foe generations....pretty nifty eh?

But right now...looks like the wheels are off the Politically Correct train and there will be a reckoning in a few weeks

ya’ll over there are KOS better hold on...

49 posted on 09/18/2010 12:03:51 AM PDT by wardaddy (Yes..to race baiters and self righteous type folks here....I am indeed Satan. I confess.)
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To: hylandia

Found it and here is my stunned response:

If you aren’t an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You’re a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won’t have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.

And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.

On a good day you’re a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I’m sorry. I can’t go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don’t have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.

The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn’t really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative post was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of crap among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us “normal” people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are “challenged” persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn’t have been “right”. Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.


50 posted on 09/18/2010 12:04:08 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: hylandia

51?


51 posted on 09/18/2010 12:04:48 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: hylandia

Adios y no no quiero verte otra vez. Quedate en su casa loca.


52 posted on 09/18/2010 12:05:04 AM PDT by unkus
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To: hylandia

1. Because certain countries (read México) are engaged in demographic warfare against the United States and we need to defend ourselves.
2. Because globally we are experiencing the greatest Völker Wanderung since the 3rd century AD. That one brought down western civilization and inaugurated 1300 years of barbarism in Europe.
3. Because nations that won’t defend their borders don’t usually survive long and we probably won’t.

Go away and read Gibbon, Dio, Gregory of Tours and a few other chroniclers of the time. What’s happening now has happened before and it was not good.


53 posted on 09/18/2010 12:05:09 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one.)
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To: hylandia

http://www.darksideofillegalimmigration.com/


54 posted on 09/18/2010 12:05:25 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Vendome
Just added you to it. Don't get the opportunity to use it all that often (darkwing104 is like a damn rat on a Cheeto when it comes to troll alerts), but I gotta refresh that list on occasion......

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

55 posted on 09/18/2010 12:05:25 AM PDT by Viking2002 (2010 - NO PRISONERS! NO QUARTER!)
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To: hylandia
She lives in San Francisco too, (well sometimes).


56 posted on 09/18/2010 12:05:57 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: hylandia

If you behave yourself and actually wish to have a dialog rather than just trolling, why would you be zotted?

Besides it being illegal what do we get out of it? If it’s so great then why doesn’t Mexico reciprocate? Why does Mexico have such Fascist laws in regards to foreigners in their country illegally?

You don’t mention why you approve of it so why is illegal immigration good when unemployment is 10% and new jobs are few and far between?

Why do the unions want illegal immigration amnesty? Don’t you think that is the strangest thing? Bringing in millions of undereducated union members would do what? The first thing it would do is depress union wages AND cause a huge scarcity in union jobs.

So obviously allowing millions of illegals doesn’t help the rank and file. But it sure would help fill the coffers of the union leadership. Those overpaid do-nothings who flit from resort to resort having “union meetings” would get even more money.


57 posted on 09/18/2010 12:06:46 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (It's easy being a communist when you're rich.)
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To: hylandia

If you’ve ever heard the phrase “the profits are privatized, the costs are socialized” that sums up the labor equation. Big Business loves illegal aliens because they get to pay low wages and no benefits while the taxpayer gets stuck with the bill.

Democrats love illegal aliens because they are anticipating reform/amnesty/”path to citizenship” etc. that will legalize millions of them who will eventually be given the vote. Another poor, welfare-dependent population that is guaranteed to vote Democrat.

The remittance system props up Mexico. A country that has been ruled by a rotten, corrupt oligarchy for the last 500 years. They get to send their restless, discontented and desperate “El Norte” so there is no pressure to reform. Mexico is blessed with natural resources. There is no excuse for it to be a turd-world banana republic. Allowing the illegal-alien traffic does Mexico no favors.


58 posted on 09/18/2010 12:07:26 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: Caesar Soze

I like your cell analogy.

Would you say she has pink blood? As she is full of Homoglobin?

How’s your brother, Keyser??


59 posted on 09/18/2010 12:07:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MrEdd

60 posted on 09/18/2010 12:07:55 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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