Posted on 09/10/2010 12:01:58 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs
A TERRITORY girl is lucky to be alive after she was mauled by a savage dog.
Seven-year-old Meg Croton and her brother Connor, 9, had been feeding their family's dog - an eight-year-old mastiff cross - in their Humpty Doo back yard when the girl was attacked by the vicious hound.
"I tripped on a rock and fell, and I think I kicked his leg," Meg recalled the attack. "And then it hurt very badly and he was on top of me and ripped on my head. "But my brother saved my life."
(Excerpt) Read more at ntnews.com.au ...
Coma, coma, coma, coma chameleon...you come and go, you come and go-oh-oh!
Indeed you do, baby... ;-) and I'm rolling into bed. 'Night all.
Elixyveth, here's some information about treating Separation Anxiety per your request. Remember all things take time, and keep me posted!
Night, gal.
Sleep easy..:)
That’s the stupidest post I’ve read from you yet.
Me?
I’d hire someone to stay with the poor dog all day.
Thank you, dear. You too.
Oh, your friend is here?
Great!
Elixyveth, as hard as it will be to do so, PLEASE ignore your own instincts to mother the dog..that’s NOT what it needs right now.
It needs self reliance and confidence.
I kept one of my breeder’s -severely- storm phobic dogs for 13 months here and within a couple of weeks, she was cured of her thunder phobias.
It was summer and we had stors regularly and she’d always come crying onto the sofa and I’d just push her back off.
She’d do it again, I’d shove her back off.
I told her “If you wanna freak out, go do it where I can’t see you” and she’d go mope in her bed, shaking.
One of *my* dogs started to assume -her- behavior and then I knew it was time for more drastic measures.
I waited until we had a whomping good electrical storm coming and I took Dot and my pack into the back yard to await its arrival.
It was awesome and terrifying!
Dot panicked for a while but as my dogs were all happily running about, snapping at bugs and the wind-whipping willow branches, she started to calm down and understand that there was no -tangible- threat.
We stayed out there with lightning flashing right over our heads, thunder cracking like the End of Days and only came in when the inevitable deluge began.
She just slept through storms after that for the entire rest of the time she was here.
When she went back to her breeder, I told her what she had to do to maintain this new mindset...but, thick-headed know it all that she was, within a month, the dog was phobic again.
She “babied and pitied” her and rewarded her irrational behavior.
The poor dog was suffering again, needlessly.
You stay strong!
:)
You two should just run a weekly ping list on how to train dogs.
Well, I don’t know what they teach in Evanston, or Louisiana for that matter, but When I was back there in seminary school, There was a person there
Who put forth the proposition, That you can petition the Lord with prayer.....
Petition the lord with prayer,
Petition the lord with prayer!
You cannot petition the lord with prayer!
(Unless, of course, the Lord is Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst.)
>That’s the stupidest post I’ve read from you yet.
Me?
I’d hire someone to stay with the poor dog all day.<
ROFL! I vote with Salamander. From an operant conditioning standpoint, the dog gets no reaction with its hysteria, so like a kid having a tantrum, it eventually extinguishes behavior that doesn’t work. Hysteria consumes energy. It’s hard work, essentially. So, if the dog doesn’t reap any reward, the behavior isn’t worth the metabolic cost.
Now, aren’t you glad you can save all that money you’d be paying a doggy babysitter? :-P
LOL!
I HATE typing and I get enough requests privately, thanks....LOL
Brad’s Gramma always has a knife handy for those who thought she was a friend.
El Roy is frowning at you girl.
Can you give me sanctuary?
Soft asylum?
Who’s El Roy?
If you want to get a dog, don't get a puppy. People get puppies because they think they're cute. But that's a little like marrying a girl just because you think she's cute. If you haven't taken the time to get to know her, you're in for trouble.
The only thing you're going to know about a puppy is that whatever it doesn't poop or pee on, it's going to chew up. When you look into its eyes you don't see it's character, you only see cute. Yeah, I know, you can't resist but marry a couple girls just because they're cute and you will learn.
Most people who have developed a sense of discrimination can discern the character of a grown dog pretty quickly. It's sort of like meeting your soul mate when you find the right dog. This is a the best way to insure your dog will not attack and eat you and your children at a later date, unless, of course, that's what you want from your soul mate.
So, I'm telling you, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER get a puppy. Anyone who tells you differently is lacking in experience and discernment.
Just thought I'd clear that up because I am an expert.
You keep telling me this, but you are the one who feels the need to tell me what I'm 'missing' from my posts, and what I am 'implying'. You keep trying to take control by crying 'stop it' and declaring the thread over and dead. You can't control people that disagree with and that makes you crazy, so you dance around the quotes I am providing from your own posts, trying to make this about me and what you think my 'feelings' are. You compared me to a drunk, for Christ's sake. The facts are, and I CITE this entire thread as proof, that you are opinionated and obstinate and in love with the sound of your own voice. You can't see your self contradiction because you don't want to.
Again. Yes. It is INVALID.... ready... AS a Predictor or Proof. Sure you can offer it. SO WHAT? I offered Mine. Best case is a tie. Who cares? Why the hubris? Get over it. Let it go.
You can't discount my experience as invalid and then cite yours as proof. That's not debating, it's bloviating.
Now, see how, even when you totally "quote" things I didn't say, I reply? See that? I did not say "time bomb" You did.
No, you compared them to land mines, being continually whacked. Since whacking a land mine is a demonstrably foolish act, and you posit that adult dogs can be set off by unknown triggers and conditioning, I think my example is a more accurate portrayal of your opinion. Notice please that I did not use quotation marks or italics to imply that this is what you had actually said. I used plain text because it was MY summary.
Hello? I cited THIS article. I did not go a "look up some proofs". I said "this" article.
If you're using this one article as your proof, you're foolish. If you were actually citing the lengthy article which you posted in it's entirety in the same post, you're presumptous. I can only go off what you post.
Let me see if I can break it down for you.
This article, an adopted dog DID attack a child. Yes?
Then, ergo, that is A proof. That is what I said. It is. Man walking on the moon IS a proof that man has walked on the moon. Please!
Yes, it's proof that A man has walked on the moon. Not that all men will almost inevitably walk on the moon, and that to reduce our risk of men walking on the moon, we should stay away from men.
Post 103. Do you see that? Not my first post by a long shot. I told you. I answer questions. YOU ASKED ME. I did not OFFER it. I did not say it was Better than yours. I did not do anything other than chase your latest strawman and burn it.
Let me post this again so you can read it this time. I said ""Since you’ve discounted my opinion as useless and probably false since it’s based on my own personal experience, what do you base yours on?"
You said (my summary) "My experience".
I dismissed your personal experience without regard to your status is THE PROOF that your status was not a determinate. I dismissed your experience DE FACTO. Without regard to anything. Other than common sense.
No, you dismissed the experience of anyone who did not have children. Which includes you, but not me.
Again, I will say it. Just because your dog has not bit your children, has no other meaning, no other value, than... YET. That is all. Yet. YET YET YET.
Someday your dog MIGHT. Maybe they never will and here is hoping so. I said that too. Remember?
Yeah, he might bite. So might any other dog on the planet with teeth. Your assertion that his 'unknown triggers' make him more likely to bite are backed up by...Nothing.
Get it? YOU took... no... ARE TAKING this personally. You should not.
None of you. It is crazy and very unbecoming.
*snerk*
Go ahead you say? Go ahead and what? Convince you that I mean what I say and say what I mean?
As if hanging around here putting up with this abuse for 3 days isn't proof enough?
As if never once telling you go to #^#&@ yourself isn't proof enough?
As if not responding to those who insult my age, name, sex, hair color, breast size and intelligence and compare me to excrement isn't enough? Uh, no, I'm asking you to prove somehow that you didn't mean what you said. That bringing home an adult dog to a home without children is NOT tantamount to training it to attack and kill your children. Are you even reading what I post?
What kind of proof could I possibly offer which could be more convincing than to stay and reason, slowly winning over half of the most vicious crowd of angry self righteous people I have even encountered on this forum?
Well, you could convince me by displaying some actual capacity to reason, for starters. Using words in their proper context instead of like some TV addict with a penchant for legal shows would be awesome.
Go ahead yourself. Tell me. Tell me and everyone else reading this, how much MORE you demand before the blood lust will be sated.
Because you know what?
I will pay it!
Oh, honey, this isn't bloodlust. This is a slow weekend. I don't think you've ever seen me when I'm actually pissed off by someone's opinion. That's when I start breaking out the Monty Python references. The fact is that your opinion, though disagreeable to me, is slightly interesting. What is fascinating is your ability to maintain your utter conviction of superiority in the face of your own overwhelming inability to construct, defend, and remain constant to a single cogent point. You're so obsessed with how you enthrall people you can't go back and say "Hmm, I contradicted myself there. Maybe I was wrong." Once you learn how to do that, you knowledge will increase beyond your wildest dreams.
Elixyveth...I have a couple of GSD’s...
When one of them was a pup, she had a TOTAL scare of wheels, bikes, skate boards...you name it.
We were out walking one day and I could hear kids on skateboards coming. I put her in a sit position....watched her shake, DIDN’T SAY A WORD to her...and stayed there till the kids went by.
When they left, we continued walking. I never praised her, didn’t say a word, we kept walking...and she has NEVER been afraid of anything on wheels since.
If Salamander gives you advice...please follow it. I have NEVER met anyone who has the best common sense as she.
And, to anyone wondering about my smart mouth comment up above a few posts...I should’ve put that sarcasm tag on.
:)
Oh. ps...someone mentioned a ping list on dog training....I wanna be on the list! In fact, I want to be #1 on the list because it is, afterall, all about me. Ha!
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