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1 posted on 09/10/2010 6:40:26 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth
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H.R.4646
Title: Debt Free America Act
Sponsor: Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] (introduced 2/23/2010) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills: S.2965
Latest Major Action: 2/23/2010 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Ways and Means, and in addition to the Committees on the Budget, Rules, and Appropriations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.


2 posted on 09/10/2010 6:42:59 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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If this passes there won’t be any cash left in the banks.


3 posted on 09/10/2010 6:44:25 AM PDT by WinMod70
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Looks a lot like a VALUE ADDED TAX!!! (vat)

Which can (and will) be increased every year.


4 posted on 09/10/2010 6:44:31 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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They must have got the idea from watching ‘Office Space’.


5 posted on 09/10/2010 6:44:40 AM PDT by AU72
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And all the while, the dimislam party is talking about extending the Bush tax cuts.
Yeah right.


6 posted on 09/10/2010 6:44:57 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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I have looked at the final draft and don’t see it. I have checked with Cato and AEI (who read these in depth) and they haven’t seen it.

So, can you provide a RELIABLE source? And it has to be to the FINAL draft of the legislation.

Thanks!


7 posted on 09/10/2010 6:45:11 AM PDT by whitedog57
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I have no information how likely this would be passed, but I doubt ATM transfer would be taxed. That would be too visible tax on many Dems.

In anycase, GOP should use the prospect of lame-duck session in campaign ads and try to force dem candidate renouncing them or signing a legally binding contract not to do such things (this of course if enforcable but would be nice PR)


8 posted on 09/10/2010 6:45:16 AM PDT by heiss
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H.R.4646

Debt Free America Act (Introduced in House - IH)

SEC. 3. IMPLEMENTATION OF A TRANSACTION FEE.

`CHAPTER 37--TRANSACTION FEE

`SEC. 4501. IMPOSITION OF TRANSACTION FEE.

`Chapter 37. Transaction Fee.'.

SEC. 4. INCOME TAX CREDIT DURING PERIOD THAT TRANSACTION FEE AND INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX ARE IN EFFECT.

`SEC. 25E. CREDIT DURING PERIOD OF TRANSACTION FEE AND INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX.

SEC. 5. ESTABLISHMENT OF TASK FORCE.

`ESTABLISHMENT OF TASK FORCE FOR RESPONSIBLE FISCAL ACTION


9 posted on 09/10/2010 6:45:43 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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This is some kind of whacked “fair” tax scheme that will never come out of committee.


10 posted on 09/10/2010 6:45:57 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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They know that “1%” sounds like a little, but it is on EVERY transaction!!! This will amount to at least a 10% tax on everyone!
They are not crazy. They are marxists. They don’t care what we think of them. They are throwing excrement at the wall in the hopes that some of it will stick.
Take them very seriously.


12 posted on 09/10/2010 6:46:40 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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This would work if it were the ONLY tax. It would be completely neutral in its effects, and favor no one.

For this reason, it will never happen.


17 posted on 09/10/2010 6:49:06 AM PDT by proxy_user
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These guys have got to go, tell the beast down boy, beat it with your votes in NOV..


18 posted on 09/10/2010 6:49:42 AM PDT by aeonspromise
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This will put an end to a lot of speculative activity. People will cash their paychecks and stick their money in a mattress in order to avoid this tax. This proposal is custom-made to slam the brakes on the entire national economy.

The only thing Washington gives a damn about is extracting money to pay for their wish-lists and pay-offs. It it kills the US economy and throws millions out of work, those are just the eggs they have to break.


19 posted on 09/10/2010 6:49:46 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (A community organizer is nothing more than a low level Socialist agitator. -- Lt. Col. Allen West)
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Something to keep an eye on, however keep in mind that any congressman can introduce anything and 95% of it is never even voted on. There is some rabidly anti-gun congressman that has been introducing a total ban on firearms every year since the 1980’s, it never goes anywhere and I think one or two of the congressional black caucus have introduced reparation bills, which always die a quick death.
21 posted on 09/10/2010 6:50:43 AM PDT by apillar
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According to the bill it is supposed to be a replacement for the Income Tax:

"Debt Free America Act - States as purposes of this Act the raising of sufficient revenue from a fee on transactions to eliminate the national debt within seven years and the phasing out of the individual income tax. Amends the Internal Revenue Code to impose a 1% fee, offset by a corresponding nonrefundable income tax credit, on transactions that use a payment instrument, including any check, cash, credit card, transfer of stock, bonds, or other financial instrument. Defines "transaction" to include retail and wholesale sales, purchases of intermediate goods, and financial and intangible transactions. Establishes in the legislative branch the Bipartisan Task Force for Responsible Fiscal Action to review the fiscal imbalance of the federal government and make recommendations to improve such imbalance. Provides for expedited consideration by Congress of Task Force recommendations. Repeals after 2017 the individual income tax, refundable and nonrefundable personal tax credits, and the alternative minimum tax (AMT) on individuals. Directs the Secretary of the Treasury to: (1) prioritize the repayment of the national debt to protect the fiscal stability of the United States; and (2) study and report to Congress on the implementation of this Act."

It's sponsor is not DeFazio but Chaka Fattah. And it'll never make it out of committee.

HR-4646

22 posted on 09/10/2010 6:50:50 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Ok, they drive us to use cash to avoid the tax, what’s next?


26 posted on 09/10/2010 6:54:37 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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I direct deposit my check, $40 TF; I transfer funds to my wife’s account, $5 TF; I transfer money to my checking account for bill paying, $20 TF.

I’ve just pay $65 in transfer fees and I haven’t even spent a nickel....


28 posted on 09/10/2010 6:55:15 AM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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Well, it’s not just 1%. It is a minimum of 2%, because you pay once when it goes in and again when it goes out.

And of course, your employer paid his 1% on that money when he put it in the bank and his 1% when he took it out to pay you, so now we’re looking at a minimum of 4% on every dollar you earn.

If you’re in the 15% bracket, they just increased your Federal taxes by 26%!

I will take my pay in cash, straight from the till.

And, of course, even though I am taking my pay in a way that is difficult to trace and creates no records, I will be super diligent and report every dollar and ensure that my full Income Tax, FICA and the rest gets paid in full, every quarter, right? Because I’m an honest fellow.

A bill like this would make the underground economy explode.


31 posted on 09/10/2010 6:59:06 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (A community organizer is nothing more than a low level Socialist agitator. -- Lt. Col. Allen West)
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National Security problems with this:

Banks are required to report large movements of money. This penalizes repeated movements of money: every time you deposit or withdraw money, you get hit with a tax. So people will reduce the number of transactions they make, making a smaller number of larger transactions... all of which will be seen by Big Brother. At the same time, Big Brother will be so overwhelmed by all these motions, He won’t detect the terrorism payoffs, the narcotic trades, etc.

Not good. Not good at all.


32 posted on 09/10/2010 7:00:15 AM PDT by dangus
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But....but...this won’t apply to the “middle” class. Remember, Obama said so!


42 posted on 09/10/2010 7:13:36 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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