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Ayn Rand: Goddess of the Great Recession
Christianity Today | 8/28/2010 | Garry Moore

Posted on 08/28/2010 7:06:10 PM PDT by Mojave

This past spring, the Financial Industry Inquiry Commission held hearings on the world's recent financial crisis. The star witness was Alan Greenspan. The Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan translated Greenspan's typically elusive testimony this way: "I didn't do anything wrong, and neither did Ayn Rand by the way, but next time you might try more regulation."

There were obviously many reasons for the Great Recession. But I believe Noonan got to the root of one particular evil.

Fortune magazine once labeled Greenspan "America's most famous libertarian, an Ayn Rand acolyte." (While Rand formally rejected libertarianism, libertarians nonetheless admire her.) But today, both libertarians and Randians are disassociating themselves from Greenspan as quickly as Wall Street.


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To: Hoodat

That passage is widely (and I believe correctly) understood as a typical parable told by Jesus, which were metaphors. He’s not talking about money. He’s talking about his disciples spreading the kingdom of God. If you find God, and keep it hidden, you are not spreading the Gospel. If you bring others to God, you have done well.


101 posted on 08/28/2010 9:53:43 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Mojave

“or mindless self-indulgence”

You mean like Ted Bundy?


102 posted on 08/28/2010 9:55:51 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino
where did Rand ever reject morality?

"Achievement of your happiness is the only moral purpose of your life, and that happiness, not pain or mindless self-indulgence, is the proof of your moral integrity, since it is the proof and the result of your loyalty to the achievement of your values." --Ayn Rand

How many times will you dance around it?

103 posted on 08/28/2010 9:56:06 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: narses
So taxes are always immoral?

Are they taken under the threat of force? If so, then they are. If not, they're not.

Ditto capital punishment?

Even you're not that stupid narses....

104 posted on 08/28/2010 9:57:55 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: DesertRhino
You mean like Ted Bundy?

He was serving his own happiness, unconcerned with the welfare of his victims. The perfect "Objectivist."

105 posted on 08/28/2010 9:58:13 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Mojave
"Amorality is morality. IOW, "Objectivism."

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I don't consider myself a full-fledged obectivist. But when you make a comment like this, those who know something about objectivism become aware that you spout opinions about things of which you are clearly ignorant.

Just an FYI.

Hank

106 posted on 08/28/2010 9:58:17 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Where's the diversity on MSNBC? Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, Maddow.....all white males!)
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To: Mojave
How many times will you dance around it?

How many times are you going to post a small portion of the entire thing out of context?

107 posted on 08/28/2010 9:59:02 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Mojave

So,,, the sentence where she speaks of the moral purpose to one’s life,,, is where you believe she,, rejects morality? Am i following you??


108 posted on 08/28/2010 9:59:49 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Mojave
When you continullay use one quote as a basis for your perception, however ridiculously incorrect, of an entire school of philosophy, it's time to stop posting.

Read some of Rand's work, specifically the part about using physical force on others:

Whatever may be open to disagreement, there is one act of evil that may not, the act that no man may commit against others and no man may sanction or forgive. So long as men desire to live together, no man may initiate—do you hear me? no man may start—the use of physical force against others.

I realize that you probably posses the (liberal) type of intellect that believes whoever has the last word somehow wins the argument no matter how utterly incorrect they are or how idiotic they sound, so I'm done with you. Stop embarrassing yourself and this website.
109 posted on 08/28/2010 9:59:57 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Mojave
When you continullay use one quote as a basis for your perception, however ridiculously incorrect, of an entire school of philosophy, it's time to stop posting.

Read some of Rand's work, specifically the part about using physical force on others:

Whatever may be open to disagreement, there is one act of evil that may not, the act that no man may commit against others and no man may sanction or forgive. So long as men desire to live together, no man may initiate—do you hear me? no man may start—the use of physical force against others.

I realize that you probably posses the (liberal) type of intellect that believes whoever has the last word somehow wins the argument no matter how utterly incorrect they are or how idiotic they sound, so I'm done with you. Stop embarrassing yourself and this website.
110 posted on 08/28/2010 10:00:15 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: DesertRhino; Mojave
DR I simply have to say that Mojave is either being deliberately obtuse or he's simply completely full of black hole dense stupid.

My bet's on the latter.

111 posted on 08/28/2010 10:00:30 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Mojave

Ted Bundy “He was serving his own happiness, unconcerned with the welfare of his victims. The perfect “Objectivist.””

LOL,,, dude, you really had me going. I thought you were serious. You’ve been pulling our leg all along haven’t you??


112 posted on 08/28/2010 10:01:48 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
I don't consider myself a full-fledged obectivist.

Don'r beat yourself up. There's no such thing as a consistent "Objectivist."

113 posted on 08/28/2010 10:01:48 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Lurker

Unable to defend your “philosophy” you go ad hominem. Every time.


114 posted on 08/28/2010 10:03:33 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Lurker

Yep. Either way i second snowrip’s motion. Nothing seems to work,,, so time to see what else is in the news.


115 posted on 08/28/2010 10:05:24 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino

You can’t fix stupid, except through education, and this person is apparently unwilling or unable to educate themselves. Have a great night!


116 posted on 08/28/2010 10:06:56 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: ModelBreaker
Actually, He was teaching about stewardship and the responsibility that goes along with it. The interesting part is that the servant who buried his talent had an incorrect perception of what the Master is really like. Yet even with his incorrect perception, he still acted foolishly in regard to it.

God wants us to be good stewards of what he has placed in our charge, for He is the Master. Bottom line.

117 posted on 08/28/2010 10:08:01 PM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: snowrip

same to you!


118 posted on 08/28/2010 10:08:57 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: snowrip
You can’t fix stupid

That's for damn sure and the other poster has it all the way to the bone. Well, he's the one who has to walk around in that skin. I suppose that's punishment enough.

119 posted on 08/28/2010 10:10:28 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Mojave
"Don'r beat yourself up. There's no such thing as a consistent "Objectivist."

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But there's no shortage of ignorant Rand-bashers.

Hank

120 posted on 08/28/2010 10:25:41 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Where's the diversity on MSNBC? Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, Maddow.....all white males!)
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