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Airport Scanner Technology Mounted On US Gov't Vans To Scan What's In Nearby Vehicles
techdirt ^ | August 25, 2010 | Unknown

Posted on 08/26/2010 10:44:09 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright

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To: rightsmart

Were they large white van/truck looking things? If they were, then that was them. Have you seen the youtube video on them? Pretty creepy.


21 posted on 08/26/2010 11:33:14 AM PDT by Deo confidimus
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To: SnakeDoctor

Ditto!


22 posted on 08/26/2010 11:33:51 AM PDT by Kolb ("Man is not free unless government is limited." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Neil E. Wright
What's the problem? If you're not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to hide, right?
23 posted on 08/26/2010 11:44:04 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: SnakeDoctor

“To the extent they are used in the United States, you?d better have a warrant or probable cause. This isn?t the same thing as law enforcement looking in a car window (which is legal). This is an invasive search.”

Yep. This isn’t plain view and violates reasonable expectation of privacy.


24 posted on 08/26/2010 11:51:40 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: BenLurkin

“All your privacy are belong to us.”

Hugh invasion of privacy! This is series.


25 posted on 08/26/2010 11:53:54 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Neil E. Wright

The old saw applies, “if you don’t have anything to hide, why fret”.
Sounds very useful near border areas, high crime districts, and undercover surveillance operations......

Not to mention a little peekaboo inside someone’s domicile.

The Surveillance State advances a little more.

HOA’s and certain communities could even enforce diktats and ordnances on the use of certain materials like alcohol and tobacco inside one’s not so private property.

The Nannyists smile.


26 posted on 08/26/2010 12:00:10 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: swarthyguy
The old saw applies, “if you don’t have anything to hide, why fret”. Sounds very useful near border areas, high crime districts, and undercover surveillance operations......

Around my neck of the woods, the old saw is "What business is it of yours?"
27 posted on 08/26/2010 12:08:58 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Hodar
It appears to be the microwave based technology. The radio-activity you are thinking about (X-rays) would require a emitter on the other side of the subject.

No, I based it on this from the excerpt: "the same backscatter x-ray scanner technology ..." and that doesn't sound like microwaves. I think you are thinking of the naughty-bits scanner for people and this is the technology for luggage and other inanimate objects. After all, we're not talking about a few layers of clothing but rather vehicle and truck bodies. I believe the backscatter sensing is what lets the emitter be in front and the receiver is reading reflections.

28 posted on 08/26/2010 12:14:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Obama suffers from decision-deficit disorder." Oliver North 6/25/10)
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To: SnakeDoctor
This isn’t the same thing as law enforcement looking in a car window (which is legal). This is an invasive search.

Indeed.

I dare them to bring a case to trial based on evidence from one of these rigs.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

29 posted on 08/26/2010 12:22:15 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A fearless person cannot be controlled.)
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To: NonValueAdded

The backscatter would also show solid elements on the emitter side of the truck - these seem to simply be front-side and only reach ‘into’ the truck about a foot or so.

Randomly backscattering X-rays in this fashion would destroy sensitive equipment (computers, hard drives), cause severe problems for the operators of the equipment, and the other problem is ‘focus’.

Whereas by increasing the microwave amplitude, you can either opt to go through a few layers of cotton/rayon/linen/polyester or bump it up a bit and go through brick, layers of metal, glass and cement.

If you are thinking of seeing the ‘reflection’ and intereprating the density based upon that - I can agree - but this would not work with radioactivity. Microwaves would work - and the airports demonstate this works on a daily basis. Same principle, higher amplitude or different frequency or a mix of both.


30 posted on 08/26/2010 12:30:42 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Deo confidimus
The truck I saw looked more like this: http://www.aawiping.com/images/delivery-truck.jpg

However, there were posts that came out of the corners of the back of the truck so that the truck could be leveled. There were also air conditioning boxes on the back section (above the cab?). It reminded me of a commercial version of a military command truck.

What really caught my eye was that this truck was between the north and southbound lanes of the highway and leveling posts were deployed so it was fulfilling it's purpose there.

31 posted on 08/26/2010 12:50:16 PM PDT by rightsmart
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To: Smokin' Joe
Countermeasures, anyone? Enough is enough.

I heard about this yesterday. I guess tinfoil won't be a countermeasure for this tech.

32 posted on 08/26/2010 12:51:39 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
If you're not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to hide, right?

Right, but.... What if the feds decide to drive around looking for guns in your home?

33 posted on 08/26/2010 12:53:30 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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Airport Scanner Technology Mounted On US Gov't Vans To Scan What's In Nearby Vehicles

34 posted on 08/26/2010 1:00:59 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Arrowhead1952

(It was sarcasm)

I live in Texas, everyone has guns in thier home, car, etc. and it is all legal.


35 posted on 08/26/2010 2:25:18 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

I liev in Texas too. I am in the Conservative area of Travis county. Most of my neighbor know I have guns and they do as well.

Heck, I clean my guns in the garage. I had a local cop stop by one day and he was impressed with my “collection” of weapons.


36 posted on 08/26/2010 2:40:01 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

You can be sure that he made a permanent note next to your address about your collection.


37 posted on 08/26/2010 5:57:58 PM PDT by B4Ranch (America was founded by MARKSMEN, not Marxists.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

On the border crossings this sort of thing would be fantastic. At the border there is no 4th amendment. But of course using this sort of thing anywhere else should require a warrant, or some other sort of court order.

Where this would also save a lot of time and stress is on those occasions when there’s some “suspicious vehicle” left parked somewhere it shouldn’t be, like a big Ryder truck left parked in front of a Federal building. Send in one of these trucks to immediately, and non-invasively, find out whether the truck is full of office supplies, or drums of ANFO.


38 posted on 08/26/2010 6:30:18 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: B4Ranch

He know me personally anyway. He invited me to go to their practice range, if I didn’t have a place to shoot. He is a “cool cop” and also ex military.


39 posted on 08/27/2010 4:37:07 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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