[Corazon]

The Sunday Advertiser August 13, 1961

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7558/obama1961birthannouncemcr9.png

Samuel K. Haae born August 4, 1961, and died July 6, 1963

http://files.usgwarchives.net/hi/hawaii/cemeteries/stbenedict.txt

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/21/results-of-investigation-made-possible-by-donors-to-the-post-email-legal-fund/

WAS OBAMA GIVEN A CERTIFICATE NUMBER WHICH HAD BELONGED TO SOMEONE ELSE?

by Sharon Rondeau

The Dunhams were found in the Polk's Directory as residing in Honolulu from sometime in 1960 forward

(Aug. 21, 2010) — In June, The Post & Email solicited funds for its Legal Defense Fund for a specific research project focusing on details and discrepancies surrounding Obama’s alleged birth in Hawaii. Many of our readers were very generous with their donations, including one who put forth a “matching grant” challenge which was met and even surpassed. With the help of a private donor, The Post & Email was able to fund an investigative journey to Hawaii for an experienced researcher. The results of the investigation follow in the researcher’s own words........

........ RESEARCHER: Yes, I think it was just to help people out. I think it’s safe to say that I’m not the only person who has gone into the Department of Health looking for Mr. Obama’s index data.

After that, because of some information that I had obtained from another researcher, I began another leg of my investigation. There is speculation that because Mr. Obama has a certificate number that is higher than the Nordyke twins who were born on August 5, 1961 at Kapiolani Women and Children’s Hospital, yet their births were registered on August 11, 1961, three days after Mr. Obama’s was allegedly registered and that he is using the certificate number of another infant born within a certain date range and registered on August 11th which was a Friday and no later than Monday, August 14th. It depends on what time of the day the Nordyke twins’ birth certificates were processed; the certificate number that Mr. Obama was allegedly assigned was likely assigned the same day as the Nordykes’.

MRS. RONDEAU: What is the relationship between the certificate number of the Nordykes and the number on the FactCheck-Obama document online?

RESEARCHER: The Nordyke twins’ birth certificate numbers are either 151-1961-010636/37 or 151-1961-010638/39, because only one of the twins’ birth certificates is posted online and that was the one identified with the certificate number 010638. Mr. Obama’s certificate was allegedly processed on August 8th and has the number 010641, which is no more than two or three numbers higher than the one Nordyke twin certificate number. I have confirmation from the DoH in response to UIPA requests I made last winter that the numbers were not preprinted on the form. The numbers were assigned by the Department of Health when the birth registration was accepted by the State Registrar, and only in the DoH main office located in Honolulu.

MRS. RONDEAU: So as a birth occurred and the information reached the Department of Health, a number was assigned.

RESEARCHER: Yes, and I believe that regardless of the actual birth date, they just assigned the next sequential number when the birth registration was processed. I don’t think there is necessarily any attempt on their part to order them by birth date.

MRS. RONDEAU: Is there any other information that you think our readers would like to know about?

RESEARCHER: I think that is a significant anomaly. Based on the information that’s been gathered thus far and the procedures used by the Department of Health during this time period, I just don’t think that it’s feasible that Mr. Obama’s certificate number could possibly be three or four numbers higher and accepted three days earlier than those of the Nordyke twins, which leads me to believe that that number belongs to another person and in all likelihood, it could belong to the infant or young child that was born within a certain date range whose birth was registered on August 11th that later died shortly after the birth or within a couple of years. I really can’t elaborate beyond that since there is still ongoing research to see if we can identify the person certificate number 010641 could possibly belong to. We’re trying to obtain some official HI documents that will aid in our research with the generous help of The Post & Email Legal Fund and its donors......

FULL ARTICLE http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/21/results-of-investigation-made-possible-by-donors-to-the-post-email-legal-fund/

[ilovesarah2012]

If there was proof positive tomorrow that Obama was not born in the US, what would happen? Nothing.

[FrdmLvr]

Oh WHY do you have to ask so many questions? Why can’t you just take our word for it and then GO AWAY! You’re messing up everything with your incessant investigating. /sarc

[tractorman]

When will the truth finally drip out?

[hope_dies_last]

Okay, so I’m guilty of the notorious ‘double-post’

oops!

[hope_dies_last]

Okay, so I’m guilty of the notorious ‘double-post’

oops!

[combat_boots]

I ask you to pray, with me.......

in the name of Jesus, I command 0bama and his supporters to come out and proclaim 0bama as Muslim and to reveal his foreign-born status. In the next 2 months and before the election.

God, please send before them angels that Make them tell the truth and show the documents.

Dear Lord, may they each and all be even more and more of who they are, and reveal their vices before us unawares and in plain view, on air, in speeches, in their actions and meetings. And may the world witness this.

Amen.

[hoosiermama]

FYI

[kidd]

Doesn't seem to offer much proof or suspicion of anything.

"I believe that regardless of the actual birth date, they just assigned the next sequential number when the birth registration was processed. I don’t think there is necessarily any attempt on their part to order them by birth date."

There are a number of explanations that explain this. The Registrar simply assigned the numbers to the birth registrations as he/she pulled them out of their in-basket.

[Natural Born 54]

I see butterdezillion all over this. She’s done some brilliant and brave work on this subject. Thanks butter!

[mojitojoe]

To hell with microfilm, real copies of that paper on that day will prove that there was another name there and Obama’s was fraudulently inserted into the microfilm. No point in exposing it now, he won’t be removed because they will just blame the microfilm tampering on someone else. It should be used closer to 2012 to make sure he is NOT re-elected.

The Supreme Court may be Nancy’s and won’t touch it so expose the truth and let the court of public opinion decide and they WILL decide to kick this fraud out of the WH. Hopefully he will slink away in shame and seek exile in another country. Probably Spain as he tries to build a palace bigger and better than the the Saudis
next door.

tick tock, the clock is ticking on this fraud.

[TexasCajun]

Sooner or later State Media will have to report what they know to save any credibility that might still have.

[DrC]

This ‘investigator’ is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

“I made two observations: that there is a person who appears in the index directly above Mr. Obama which was identified as “duplicate;” however, there was only one entry for this birth, not two, as it seemed to suggest in reference to the “duplicate” marker.”

Immediately above Obama’s name in the index is Obado, Duplicate MAE and immediately above that is Obado, Dolleen Bergonia. In the Gender column at the far right, Obama’s entry has M, but the Dolleen Obado entry has F and so does the Duplicate MAE Obado entry. Thus, to any impartial observer, it would appear far more likely that this “duplicate” entry relates to Dolleen Obado than to Barack Obama. Else how can the female gender assigned to the “duplicate” entry be explained?

The investigator’s speculation that someone inadvertently inserted Obama’s name into the index, wiping out a legitimate record name instead of correctly wiping out the duplicate record seems very far-fetched. It is a rather transparent effort to bend facts to a preconceived theory rather than interpret the facts more straightforwardly and see if these match up with any Obama birth theory.

MAE is an acronym for many terms. “Moves all extremities” might plausibly fit here, as it is a hospital term. Perhaps this infant was a twin of Dolleen’s but born with a birth defect. Parents never named it perhaps because it was obvious it would die; if so, MAE possibly could have been a code used to differentiate this birth from a stillborn. Clearly, this is nothing more than speculation on my part. Perhaps someone with obstetrical/hospital knowledge could weigh in.

[kidd]

Not a very good researcher either.

It is pretty easy to find that the Nordyke twins had numbers 10637 and 10638.

But the “researcher” in the article wasn’t sure.

[Uncle Chip]

ping to your territory.

[Nachum]

The list, ping

[The Comedian]

Hawaiian-Plains-Drifter ping.

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

[LorenC]

“Samuel K. Haae born August 4, 1961, and died July 6, 1963”

So let me see if I have you right:

Obama’s number is higher than the Nordykes’ numbers.

You find this suspicious because Obama was born on August 4, and the Nordykes were born on August 5.

You hypothesize that Obama’s number actually belongs to someone else.

And the “someone else” you’ve identified was...born on August 4, just like Obama.

How is this even remotely internally consistent with your initial hypothesis?

[phockthis]

sfl

[bgill]

There was also another anomaly that I observed about the 1960-1964 index in general that I am not going to disclose at this time.

Glad to see that this anonymous researcher took the time to examine the book, and hopefully all the materials, very closely, for spooking.

The DoH has maintained all along that it does not have any handwritten indexes and another dedicated researcher verified that the State Archives does not possess them either.

The handwritten indexes should have been held at the COUNTY level. As the state has the index typed, then where did they obtain the information in list form? What I mean is, the clerk probably didn't type a couple names a day on the page but waited until there were enough to fill the page before typing them in. Same goes for the bride/groom indexes. I don't care what they claim about "oooh, we went digital" because every County Clerk (or whatever level) I've known gets extremely anal about **HER** records and would NEVER EVER destroy any books. I highly suspect they are in storage somewhere which would be perfect for certain volumes to "get lost."

About the BC registration numbers - I don’t think there is necessarily any attempt on their part to order them by birth date.

Geez, that was a biggie that needed verification.

Bingo! - "I just don’t think that it’s feasible that Mr. Obama’s certificate number could possibly be three or four numbers higher and accepted three days earlier than those of the Nordyke twins, which leads me to believe that that number belongs to another person and in all likelihood, it could belong to the infant or young child that was born within a certain date range

[American Constitutionalist]

MMMM MMMM MMMM Barrack Hussein Obama, a foreign born baby !