Posted on 08/22/2010 7:30:37 AM PDT by chatter4
Video-Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was born on April 4, 1936 and died November 24, 1982. He was 5 years old when WW II started, and 9 years old when it ended. Lolo Soetoro (Obama's step father) born on January 2, 1935 and died March 2, 1987. He was 6 years old when WW II started, and 10 years old when it ended. In this clip from June 28, 2008, Barry claimed his father served in WWII. Was he telling us the truth? Was Stanley A. Dunham really his father?
Correct.
I felt no need to memorize Obama’s lineage.
Still don’t.
Has anyone checked Ancestry.com? I don’t have a membership.
You don’t need to memorize his lineage to know that his grandfather’s name was Stanley A. Dunham, the same as his mothers. For pete’s sake, it’s been in the news in 1000’s of articles for 2 years. I would have thought somewhere along the line you would have known that.
I know it’s his mother’s name.
That’s about as far as I cared to delve.
Anyway, it’s ridiculous.
If whitey grandpa impregnated whitey granddaughter, how did
Obama wind up half-black? It’s stupid. He’s no cracker, yo.
I am reminded of Stanley Armour very dysfunctional upbringing and deceitful, young married-life.
In 1926, at age 8, Stanley discovered his mother’s body after she had committed suicide at the age of 26. Following his mother’s suicide, his father abandoned the family. Stanley and his older brother Ralph Emerson Dunham were then sent to live with their maternal grandparents in El Dorado, Kansas.
http://genealogy.about.com/od/aframertrees/p/obama_two.htm
13. Ruth Lucille ARMOUR was born in 1900 in Illinois and died (by suicide) on 25 November 1926 in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas.
Ralph DUNHAM and Ruth ARMOUR were married on 3 October 1915 in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas and had the following children:
i. Ralph Emerson DUNHAM, Jr., born 29 August 1916 (spouse Elizabeth Smith)
6. ii. Stanley Armour DUNHAM
The family is found living with Ruth's parents in the 1920 federal census of Sedgwick County, Kansas. In 1930, Ralph Jr. and Stanley are with their maternal grandparents in Butler County, Kansas, while their father, Ralph Sr. was enumerated with his parents in Sedgwick County, Kansas.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/18/AR2009011801154.html
The main proponent of the act was Lincoln's antagonist in Illinois, Stephen A. Douglas. Another sponsor was a senator from South Carolina, Andrew Pickens Butler, a strong advocate of Kansas becoming a slave state. There is more than a touch of incongruity in the fact that the county where Obama’s grandparents grew up is named for this same slaveholding Butler. But then again, slaves are part of the family story. Old Violet. Young Violet. Nancy. Peggy. Little William. Moriah. Sarah. Caty. Susannah. Selah. Isaac.
According to documents analyzed by the expert genealogist William Addams Reitwiesner, these are the names of slaves Obama’s white ancestors owned in the first half of the 19th century, in Virginia and Kentucky, before the families moved west to Kansas. During a speech two years ago in Selma, Ala., one of the iconic place names in the civil rights struggle, Obama acknowledged the family's past as illustrative of the nation's. “That's part of our tortured, tangled history,” he said.
El Dorado, the county seat of Butler County, was home to Stanley Armour Dunham, Obama’s grandfather, whose distinct facial features were passed along to his grandson. “El dorado” is Spanish for “the gilded one,” or golden one, and represents the mythological city of wealth long sought by Spanish explorers. The El Dorado of Kansas, pronounced el-duh-RAY-dough, was gilded in oil during Stan Dunham’s early years. The El Dorado oilfield started gushing a few miles east of town in 1915, three years before Dunham was born, and throughout the 1920s Butler County was enriched by an oil boom, transformed into a jumble of derricks, pipelines and refineries that briefly made Kansas the third-leading oil producing state in the country.
From El Dorado to President Obama in two generations — but Stan Dunham was not a golden one. Family lore, passed along by Obama in his memoir, is that Stan's mother, Ruth Lucille Armour Dunham, committed suicide in 1926, when he was 8 years old. Contemporaneous obituaries say that she died of ptomaine poisoning late one November night, and according to local history archivists, suicides were common in that era and generally not covered up with euphemisms in the newspaper. In any case, young Stan, who went to live with relatives rather than his rejecting father, became unsettled and footloose. He punched a teacher at El Dorado High and did not graduate with his class, but a year later. He did have some of the charisma of his grandson, it appears, enough to get the studious Madelyn Lee Payne to marry him, secretly, several weeks before her high school graduation.
Madelyn started dating Stan Dunham, who was four years older, during her senior year after meeting him in Wichita, probably at the Blue Moon dance pavilion. One night that spring of 1940, at a slumber party with 11 friends at Nina June Swan's downtown apartment above LoVolette’s China and Gifts, she shocked them all by letting on that she had secretly wed Stan earlier in May on the night of the junior-senior prom. Madelyn's friends were not impressed by her catch. They thought Stan was full of himself, a fast-talking showoff with what one called “a superior attitude.”
In the first days of married life, Madelyn lived at home with her parents and two younger siblings until school let out, hiding the secret. Her father, Rolla Payne, a clerk for a pipeline company, was less than happy when he finally got the news. Stan had slicked-back hair and darker skin than most people in Butler County, and though he was not Italian, there were many Italians who came to Kansas to work in the mines near the Missouri border. Old Man Payne is said to have called his son-in-law “that wop.”
In two years, Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, was born.
If I were the owner, I’d have done some voodoo witchcraft ritual involving litter box scoopings, lighter fluid and a box of matches so that it never saw the inside of my store.
He was quite obviously telling one of his many lies. Obama has a very distant relationship with truth.
Sheesh, did you even read through the thread? Who in the hell said Gramps impregnated his daughter? Seriously, a word of advice, if you insist in causing trouble on BC thread and joining in, you really should stay informed and keep up.
The question is................. not did Gramps impregnate his daughter but did Gramps impregnate a black woman.
Come on, he thought his father, the African Muslim, served in WWII? It was s slip of the tongue. Now who is his father really? Gramps served in WWII. Gramps raised him. How do we know he didn’t call him Dad? We don’t.
I actually think he lies on purpose, it keeps his name on everyones lips. /sarc
Interesting thought. And perhaps that would explain why Grandma had to be cremated and scattered. Is it possible he was not related to her - only to Gramps?
Barry didn’t call Stanley Dunham “grandpa.”
Little Barry did call Stanley Dunham “Pops.”
In fact, there is a cryptic poem the 19-year old Barry wrote called “Pop,” which is about his experience with his supposedly maternal grandfather since Stanley was the only father figure Barry had growing up in the US.
That brings up the 18YO and time in country rule that was in place at the time.
Yes, the divorce documents indicate the child’s legal mother was Stanley Ann Dunham at the time of birth, and her age at the time of birth was too young to confer U.S. citizenship upon the child by right of inheritance from the legal mother, a child bride in an alleged Muslim marriage to a man who was already in a Muslim Sharia law tribal marriage in Kenya. The Obama presidential campaign website in 2008 openly acknowledged he was born with British citizenship when Obama claimed he was born with U.S. and British dual citizenship. All of which disregards the fact that the U.S. Constitution and U.S. statutory law does not recognize the existence or legitimacy of dual citizenship.
bump
Stanley A is the mother.
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