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The Obama-Piven Strategy
Pajamas Media ^ | August 16, 2010 | Zombie

Posted on 08/16/2010 5:21:22 PM PDT by ozark hilljilly

"I propose that President Obama is simultaneously trying to rescue the economy using the Keynesian/Democratic model while at the same time also trying to destroy the economy through the Cloward-Piven Strategy. His two mutually contradictory plans cancel each other out, rendering all his efforts self-negating, and this explains why the American economy has stalled.

I dub this the Obama-Piven Strategy. And it’s the reason why we remain mired in a deep recession. We are neither recovering, as the Keynesian model predicts, nor is capitalism collapsing, as the revolutionaries hope; the Obama-Piven strategy ensures that we remain in suspended animation between the two extremes..."

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: clowardpiven; nationwrecker; obama; zombietime
Ms. Zombie has an interesting theory up at PJ Media.
1 posted on 08/16/2010 5:21:25 PM PDT by ozark hilljilly
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To: ozark hilljilly

My beeber is stuned, and detects a hugh amount of sporkweasel.


2 posted on 08/16/2010 5:27:27 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ozark hilljilly
We are neither recovering, as the Keynesian model predicts

His theory may well be true, but the reason the Keynesian model is not working is due to Bam’s ineffective policies. The marginal utility of debt is negative, meaning the the economic value created by this debt is less than the cost of the debt, hence we are wasting our money.

IMHO, it really has reached the point where the Government/Fed are not capable of fixing this.

schu

3 posted on 08/16/2010 5:30:22 PM PDT by schu
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To: ozark hilljilly

The problem with this theory is that the Keynsian/Democratic economic model IS the Cloward-Piven strategy.

Keynes didn’t win all those awards for figuring out how to make a healthy economy - he won them for figuring out how to destroy the economy in a way that could provide plausible deniability for an argument that it was helping, while blocking true economic growth. In other word, Keynes was a master bullshitter, and provided a cover for Cloward-Piven Democrat thinking.

Obama is merely the front for going ahead with naked Cloward-Piven total economic destruction while claiming the Keynesian cover story, because the Democrats have to go for it, since they are finally running out of time.


4 posted on 08/16/2010 5:30:56 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: ozark hilljilly
The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty [Original Cloward-Piven article]
5 posted on 08/16/2010 5:32:10 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: ozark hilljilly

Keynesian economics are an integral component to implementing the Cloward-Piven strategy. Keynesian economics are long discredited, and known to only increase pressure on government spending, services, and debt.


6 posted on 08/16/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by counterpunch (Heckuva job, Barry!)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Keynesian “economics” is itself destructive of free markets and economies.


7 posted on 08/16/2010 6:24:56 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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The compound word “Keynesian Economics” is an oxymoron.

It has never worked. And it never will. It makes no sense whatsoever.


8 posted on 08/16/2010 6:36:23 PM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Keynesian “economics” is itself destructive of free markets and economies.


9 posted on 08/16/2010 6:36:49 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: texmexis best

It works. The kicker is what it works for and what the goals are of those who operate by Keynesian rules. It is not free markets. It is justification for control by the “experts” and for political manipulation. For those purposes it works well. For prosperity, well, that is not what the controllers are seeking. It is like calling the Kenyan “incompetent.” To say that you have to posit that he wants the same sort of things you want and doesn’t know how to get them. It ain’t so. What he wants he is getting.


10 posted on 08/17/2010 4:57:49 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: schu
The government and Fed were never capable of fixing it. The only things that could have been "done" constructively are all negative such as frantically to deregulate the economy and cut government spending absolutely by a solid percentage while reducing tax rates substantially, removing capital gins and corporate taxes altogether. The rebound would have been rapid rapid were that done early. Government experts cannot read price signals that do not affect their business and cannot react in a timely manner to those signals. There are not enough experts to substitute successfully their judgment for the judgment of hundreds of millions of market actors. By the time the experts discern an unfavorable trend and turn the dial to counter it it is way to late and the market is already moving the other way.

It is like a novice with helm experience on bass boats being given the helm of an 800 foot tanker. He sees that it is heading off the set course by 3 degrees and pushes the helm over just a little. The vessel does not seem to respond so he pushes a little more and again no response. He pushes it some more then it starts to come back a bit.When the vessel is again pointing properly he centers the helm. And the tanker keeps turning . The novice pilot gets a little concerned and taps the helm back a little, then a little more until the ship starts to come back again.Repeat. The ship is covering the ocean in gigantic S curves of increasing amplitude. That is what happens to the economy when sincere Keynesians get hold of it. They see some of the signs but cannot actually read any of them. And that is all assuming their political bosses aren't pulling on the helm for political reasons, and they surely will be doing just that.

11 posted on 08/17/2010 5:15:58 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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