Ma'am...
Posted on 08/07/2010 9:33:54 AM PDT by Leza2
HOLIYAH SOETORO SABAH, “LIA”, OBAMA’S ADOPTED SISTER
What information was taken to her grave?
You haven’t heard of Lia? Neither had we. The unknown, until now, adopted sister of Barack Hussein Obama died unexpectedly February 26, 1910. The USA media didn’t cover the story of this woman nor was her name found until the last few days. A competent WTPOTUS sleuth, Leza, and other researchers uncovered an article about an adopted “brother” in Indonesia, named Lia or Lee. Following up on a tidbit of information and other clues, more information was uncovered. Lia was an adopted sister, not a brother. Two Indonesian obituaries were just found. These tell the final tale of this woman nicknamed Lia.
Below is a tiny photo of Edi Sobat and Lia Soetoro Sobat.
Her name was Holiyah Soetoro Sobah, age 53, born in 1957. She was the wife of Edi Sobah, age 60. They live in West Java, Indonesia. They had three children: Heni; Marlina, age 27; and Nova Noni, age 25, and four grandchildren. In translated articles Barack Obama is referred to as her “adopted brother” and “foster brother.” The fact she used the name Soetoro certainly is telling. It appears that Lolo and Ann adopted Lia, but there is no documentation for that assumption, just her words in an article. The only knowledge we have about Lia is from one article and her obituaries.
An Indonesian article was written about Lia’s invitation to the presidential inauguration in 2008. She was very excited about seeing Barack Obama again. The last time they saw each other was in 1971 when Lia visited him in Hawaii. She was 14 at the time, and Barry was 10.
When Lia was leaving Hawaii after her 3 month long visit, Madelyn Dunham gave her a monkey doll and clothes that she is holding in her picture. The doll brought back so many fond memories that she was planning to give it to him when they met again.
She stated that she received her invitation to the presidential inauguration in a phone call from a close friend of Maya Soetoro, Barack Obama’s half sister. The translation said that a white woman who wears glasses and who she knows by the name of Gelf asked her to attend Obama’s inauguration. Gelf also asked her to be prepared to meet with Barry before hand. Additionally, Lia was told that a woman of status and means would be paying the Rp600.000 for her birth certificate and travel. After receiving the money, she was told to wait for further news about the final plans. Whether Lia came to the USA to attend the festivities in January, 2008 is unknown.
More information from the article said that Lia stayed at the home of Lolo Soetoro (Obama’s stepfather) and Ann Dunham Soetoro. If I understood the translation, one morning in 1966, Lia, age 7, ran away from home. She ended up at the house owned by Mrs. Siti Bogor. It happened that Mrs. Bogor was a maid who worked for Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham in Jakarta. At some point, Stanley Ann Dunham asked Mrs. Bogor if she could adopt Lia. The answer was yes.
She said she called Lolo and Ann, Mr. and Mrs Lolo Eny. In return, they called Lia ” Non” a nickname for Nona. She said, “I was always called Non, but Barry called me Ma’am Non.” When Lia lived with the Soetoros Maya hadn’t been born yet, and Barry was living with his grandmother in Hawaii.
After living with Lolo and Ann for awhile, “Eny” [Annie] promised to give her a sister who would keep her company. Ann told her, ” Stay well, I’ll pick up your brother Barry.” Two years later, Barry left Hawaii and went to Indonesia to live with Lolo, his mother, and Lia. Lia remembered that Obama was four years younger than she. She said that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961. Lia stated that Barry Obama went to school and got a basic education in Jakarta.
According to Lia, she and Barry were always together; they played, slept and bathed together. They traveled on vacations as a family as well. Several times they went to the summit, Yogyakarta, Bali, to the Land of Toraja (Sulawesi South), and the Bogor Botanical Gardens. They loved to travel.
Amazing isn’t it that this adopted sister has remained unknown and not acknowledged as part of Barack Obama’s life story. Her name was never mentioned in his books or by Maya Soetoro-Nyg. As far as we know, it appears Barack Obama didn’t attend his step sister’s funeral in Indonesia. Lia’s family need not feel bad, he nor Michelle or their children didn’t pay their respects to Grandma Madelyn either. Grandma Madelyn was not surrounded by loving family when she departed this earth, and a proper burial ceremony wasn’t performed. God rest their souls.
More facts may be revealed about Lia’s origins and her adoption by the Soetoro family. We are left to wonder what happened to her biological parents and why was she adopted by Lolo and Ann? Why did Lia run away from home? What happened to Lia after Stanley divorced Lolo? Who is Gelf? Who was the wealthy woman that sent money to Lia? Why has she been kept a secret? What caused her death? What secrets did she take to her grave?
Hours prior to her unexpected demise, she was talking to several journalists about Barry’s anticipated arrival to Jakarta, Indonesia. She was sending messages to her husband’s cell phone about those conversations. Unfortunately for her, Lia didn’t live to see Barack Obama, her “adopted, foster” brother, again. Lia died on Friday, February 26, 2010.
Below is the Indonesian to English translation of the article and obituary. Some of the words are incorrect when translated, i.e., Lia is called a brother, and the he and she’s are mixed up, but you certainly will understand it even if a bit confusing.
Obama’s Adopted Sister Foster Brother and Maid? Barry Happiness, Happiness Non Mbak Sriwijaya, Indonesia Post Tuesday, January 20, 2009 U.S. PRESIDENT elected, Barrack Hussein Obama, was once a four-year stay in Indonesia. Although now widely separated by time and place, many Indonesian people who are made happy with the victory of Obama. One of them is Mbak Lia aka Non, foster brother when Obama was in Indonesia. “I call him Barry because it’s hard to say Barrack. So, I call him Barry, “said Lia (51), on Tuesday [Jan. 13] at her home, in Kampung Babakan Bantam, Sukasirna Village, District Cibadak, Sukabumi, West Java.
Lia meeting Barry is a coincidence. One morning in 1966, Lia’s new seven-year-old ran away from home. Lia little confused at being dumped into a house owned by Mrs. Siti Bogor. Apparently, Mrs Siti is a maid in the house the couple Lolo Sutoro and Stanley Ann Dunham in Jakarta. When Mrs Dunham Siti pick to return to Jakarta, he asked Allie to be adopted.
Two years after Allie to be adopted Sutoro and Dunham, Sutoro pick Barry from the U.S.. At that time, Sutoro become a manager at PT Pertamina. At first, Lia pleased that means it will have a friend and foster sister. ” “We met, I said to my mother, I am not happy that a black child and could not speak Indonesian,” said Lia.
Mrs Dunham convince Lia that Barry would be a nice sister. After obtaining Indonesian tutoring for seven months, Barry began to communicate with Lia and Siti who are called by Simbok.
Barry called Mbak Lia with a call girl, followed her mother calls. There are many memories in the mind of Barry Lia about the figure. . One of the unforgettable memories that Lia is a hobby Barry’s speech.
Barry very happy listening to Suharto’s speeches on television. “When President Suharto’s speech, Barry wrote it down neatly. After that, he practiced the speech of President Suharto in front of the house, “says Lia.
One time, Barry was President Suharto‘s speech mimicked in an event several times declared Indonesia as a country that Gemah Ripah jinawi loh. ” “He’s very difficult to spell those words, but to impose that sounds funny,” says Lia.
At home, Barry and Lee shared a bedroom, but different beds. Barry and Lia always wanting to sleep and wake up together. When Lia got up earlier and leave Barry, he would be furious. ” “After that, he then tied my hands and arms with a long rope. If one woke up, only allowed to leave the room when he woke the others,” says Lia.
In 1971, Barry returned to Hawaii. Lia joined him and got three months in Hawaii before returning to Indonesia. In Hawaii, Lia often invited Barry to go to the beach or to go shopping. Lia sad when parting with Barry.
By the inauguration of Obama, Lia received notification will be invited by a member of Obama’s successful team. However, until now there is no certainty. Despite claiming she’d love to meet with his adopted brother, Lia chose her desire to bury deep. Lia was glad her sister is black, filthy, and often annoying it becomes U.S. President.
Raise the U.S. President’s brother dies Friday, 02/26/2010 - 14:26
SUKABUMI, (PRLM) .- The desire Mrs. Holiyah (53) residents of Kampung Babakan Bantam, Village Sukasirna, Cibadak District, Sukabumi Regency wanted to meet the President of the United States (U.S.), Barrack Hussein Obama is disappeared. Holiyah Soetoro often called Lia, Thursday (25 / 2) died shortly before sunset.
Bodies of mother who has three children and four grandchildren, the Friday (26 / 2) is buried not far from his home. Seen her husband, Ibn [Edi] Sobah not withstand the power of compassion as Lia’s body was buried.
Lia’s death which was judged very suddenly hit her feelings. Several hours before her death her husband, [Edi] Ibn Sobah could receive short messages via his mobile telephone. He was interviewed a number of journalists inform the related plan of the arrival of his adopted brother, Barrack Obama to Jakarta.
“He was very nostalgic to see Barry (Lia’s favorite call to Barack Obama — ed). The news of U.S. President’s arrival plans, had welcomed the coming months the deceased. But what say he died before seeing his adoptive brother, “said suamiya, Ibn Sobah.
LOL- dang, i think stanley ann dunham has a identical twin sister
http://www.iwasyouragetwice.com/node/3138
Maybe this is why he had to leave Indonesia?
How Ironic that Washington, Jefferson, and Soebarkah were all Slave masters and British born Subjects.
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Ma'am...
I don't believe this anecdote, but it is amusing.
If it is true and why not, it seems to me that it is not normal behavior. It strikes me that he may have been afraid to leave his room alone.
Seems very "coincidental"/sarc that she "died" just hours before she talked to journalists about Barry's arrival. The timing could have been just when she was sharing possible info about Barry and stranger yet that he was suppose to be coming in very soon and never came even though his supposedly beloved adopted sister just died. I am really wondering what was going on. Something strange for sure, possible murder, no doubt occurred. The whole thing sounds like some kind of setup.
Who were the journalists, what story did they write if any and did they live to tell the story?
Were they real journalist or just finding out what she knew and what she might spill?
It is strange that this article often calls Obama a sister. Also that he was filthy.
Somebody should interview her husband and children to see if they know whatever it was that it looks like may have gotten her killed. Hopefully they are not offed too.
remember his naughty.
I remember to the mischief.
and this one is really strange.....
also by confesses sure Barack Obama recognizes with himself, because she knows in left foot bent Obama is hurt ex- fall to got at the time of climbing mango tree.
Is it possible that he isn't the real Barack Obama and this problem with his left foot being bent is a tell all since there is no physical indication of this on our Obama? It is strange that she says "also by confesses sure Barack Obama recognizeses with himself". This sounds wild but there are some questions as to who the real Barack Obama is per Russian records.
That moment, Barry asks himself can follow, but do not be given by permit by its stepfather to be brought by to USA.
" Barry was crying that moment for a while. Of course after split-ups equal father, Barry, Virtual and his mother lives in Jackfruit Gangway, Ciputat some old, " she reasserted.
I wonder if his stepfather having to give him "permit" means that he was his legal father? Also what does equal father mean and who is Virtual?
NOTHING seems strange when it comes to this usurper's bio!
Hillary and McPain carted out their mothers on the campaign trails, one of them 90+!!
But you never heard a peep from granny Toot, and she was effectively keep under the rug and under the bus as well!!!
I have the suspect that granny was NOT on the same page and she would have serious damage to disclose if she was made available to the public, maybe about false SS#, etc. Makes no sense at all???
He HAD to in order to be accepted going to school in Indonesia and then he probably used that to be accepted at a foreign student at Occidental College, which is under seal, hmmm!!!
Apparently the Indonesian language is not as gender specific as English. The gender is derived from context. That makes it difficult for translation software to accurately determine the sex of the person being spoken about. What we need is a person who can accurately translate these stories from Indonesian to English. Anybody out there?
In the comments at the blog that posted the original article, another Indonesian story is cited. That story said that she died from hardening of the arteries, which made her neck arteries burst. Sound plausible? An Asian woman in her early 50s—and we’re supposed to believe she had a fatal stroke brought on by high cholesterol? Maybe her neck arteries did burst, but perhaps not on their own and not because of plaque build up.
“she knows in left foot bent Obama is hurt ex- fall to got at the time of climbing mango tree.”
That’s the crux of the matter.
This woman became known to the media, at least in Indonesia. They interviewed her. She’s spilling all kinds of details that are hard for someone to make up but relatively easy to confirm. Obama is scheduled to visit Indonesia. She’s already known there as his foster sister, so their media would expect him to meet with her, to reminisce. But can he bear media scrutiny of that meeting? Suddenly, Obama cancels the trip on very flimsy grounds, and Lia conveniently and suddenly dies.
There’s no mention of this foster sister in his fictional autobiography. Is there?
Maya doesn’t remember her, or so she says. But Maya wasn’t yet born and one has to wonder how much time Maya lived with her father after her parents split up, when she was still very young. She WOULD know or remember very little about Obama’s years in Indonesia.
But there could be other explanations: Obama forgot to mention Lia to Bill Ayers, when Ayers was writing the book for him.
But perhaps the person upon whose behalf that book was written is NOT the boy that lived with Lia, so that’s why Ayers didn’t write about Lia. Lia becomes one of those inconvenient truths.
Lia’s remembrance of his bent foot would be considered an “identifying mark.” If Lia had an encounter with the POTUS, would she recognize him as Barry Soetoro? Would he remember the anecdotes and incidents from their shared childhood? Would he be able to fake it? How long before she’d come to the conclusion that he cannot be the same person she knew as Barry Soetoro?
We’ll never know now. Because Lia is conveniently dead.
That moment, Barry asks himself can follow, but do not be given by permit by its stepfather to be brought by to USA.
” Barry was crying that moment for a while. Of course after split-ups equal father, Barry, Virtual and his mother lives in Jackfruit Gangway, Ciputat some old, “ she reasserted.
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It sounds to me as if Barry wanted to go back to Hawaii with SAD but Lolo had the authority to say no, which he did, which is why Barry was crying. I wonder if this is the point in time when Barry left the Catholic school and went to the Muslim one. Did his mother leave him behind in Indonesia with Lolo? Is that why Soebarkah was excluded from his mother’s passport in 1968?
Persons familiar with Indonesian culture and laws at that time seem to agree that Muslim men ruled the roost and that included anybody living in the household. In addition, it seems that in order for SAD and Barry to live in Indonesia indefinitely, both would have had to convert to Islam and become Indonesian citizens. If Barry was an Indonesian citizen, then in all probability SAD couldn’t take him out of the country without Lolo’s permission. If Lolo adopted him under Indonesian law, then Lolo’s rights supercede hers, even though she’s the biological mother and Lolo may or may not have been. Upon adoption, under Indonesian law, the child becomes AS IF he or she were the biological child of the father.
The part about “after split-ups equal father,” sounds to me as if equal father means legal father.
http://sharehouse.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/obama-in-menteng/
The above link seems to dispute whether Obama knew what he was talking about when he spoke about where he lived in Indonesia.
Mbak Nun flux also by confesses sure Barack Obama recognizes with himself, because she knows in left foot bent Obama is hurt ex- fall to got at the time of climbing mango tree.
“He HAD to in order to be accepted going to school in Indonesia and then he probably used that to be accepted at a foreign student at Occidental College, which is under seal, hmmm!!!”
He also had to in order to travel to Pakistan.
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