Posted on 08/07/2010 9:33:54 AM PDT by Leza2
HOLIYAH SOETORO SABAH, LIA, OBAMAS ADOPTED SISTER
What information was taken to her grave?
You havent heard of Lia? Neither had we. The unknown, until now, adopted sister of Barack Hussein Obama died unexpectedly February 26, 1910. The USA media didnt cover the story of this woman nor was her name found until the last few days. A competent WTPOTUS sleuth, Leza, and other researchers uncovered an article about an adopted brother in Indonesia, named Lia or Lee. Following up on a tidbit of information and other clues, more information was uncovered. Lia was an adopted sister, not a brother. Two Indonesian obituaries were just found. These tell the final tale of this woman nicknamed Lia.
Below is a tiny photo of Edi Sobat and Lia Soetoro Sobat.
Her name was Holiyah Soetoro Sobah, age 53, born in 1957. She was the wife of Edi Sobah, age 60. They live in West Java, Indonesia. They had three children: Heni; Marlina, age 27; and Nova Noni, age 25, and four grandchildren. In translated articles Barack Obama is referred to as her adopted brother and foster brother. The fact she used the name Soetoro certainly is telling. It appears that Lolo and Ann adopted Lia, but there is no documentation for that assumption, just her words in an article. The only knowledge we have about Lia is from one article and her obituaries.
An Indonesian article was written about Lias invitation to the presidential inauguration in 2008. She was very excited about seeing Barack Obama again. The last time they saw each other was in 1971 when Lia visited him in Hawaii. She was 14 at the time, and Barry was 10.
When Lia was leaving Hawaii after her 3 month long visit, Madelyn Dunham gave her a monkey doll and clothes that she is holding in her picture. The doll brought back so many fond memories that she was planning to give it to him when they met again.
She stated that she received her invitation to the presidential inauguration in a phone call from a close friend of Maya Soetoro, Barack Obamas half sister. The translation said that a white woman who wears glasses and who she knows by the name of Gelf asked her to attend Obamas inauguration. Gelf also asked her to be prepared to meet with Barry before hand. Additionally, Lia was told that a woman of status and means would be paying the Rp600.000 for her birth certificate and travel. After receiving the money, she was told to wait for further news about the final plans. Whether Lia came to the USA to attend the festivities in January, 2008 is unknown.
More information from the article said that Lia stayed at the home of Lolo Soetoro (Obamas stepfather) and Ann Dunham Soetoro. If I understood the translation, one morning in 1966, Lia, age 7, ran away from home. She ended up at the house owned by Mrs. Siti Bogor. It happened that Mrs. Bogor was a maid who worked for Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham in Jakarta. At some point, Stanley Ann Dunham asked Mrs. Bogor if she could adopt Lia. The answer was yes.
She said she called Lolo and Ann, Mr. and Mrs Lolo Eny. In return, they called Lia Non a nickname for Nona. She said, I was always called Non, but Barry called me Maam Non. When Lia lived with the Soetoros Maya hadnt been born yet, and Barry was living with his grandmother in Hawaii.
After living with Lolo and Ann for awhile, Eny [Annie] promised to give her a sister who would keep her company. Ann told her, Stay well, Ill pick up your brother Barry. Two years later, Barry left Hawaii and went to Indonesia to live with Lolo, his mother, and Lia. Lia remembered that Obama was four years younger than she. She said that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961. Lia stated that Barry Obama went to school and got a basic education in Jakarta.
According to Lia, she and Barry were always together; they played, slept and bathed together. They traveled on vacations as a family as well. Several times they went to the summit, Yogyakarta, Bali, to the Land of Toraja (Sulawesi South), and the Bogor Botanical Gardens. They loved to travel.
Amazing isnt it that this adopted sister has remained unknown and not acknowledged as part of Barack Obamas life story. Her name was never mentioned in his books or by Maya Soetoro-Nyg. As far as we know, it appears Barack Obama didnt attend his step sisters funeral in Indonesia. Lias family need not feel bad, he nor Michelle or their children didnt pay their respects to Grandma Madelyn either. Grandma Madelyn was not surrounded by loving family when she departed this earth, and a proper burial ceremony wasnt performed. God rest their souls.
More facts may be revealed about Lias origins and her adoption by the Soetoro family. We are left to wonder what happened to her biological parents and why was she adopted by Lolo and Ann? Why did Lia run away from home? What happened to Lia after Stanley divorced Lolo? Who is Gelf? Who was the wealthy woman that sent money to Lia? Why has she been kept a secret? What caused her death? What secrets did she take to her grave?
Hours prior to her unexpected demise, she was talking to several journalists about Barrys anticipated arrival to Jakarta, Indonesia. She was sending messages to her husbands cell phone about those conversations. Unfortunately for her, Lia didnt live to see Barack Obama, her adopted, foster brother, again. Lia died on Friday, February 26, 2010.
Below is the Indonesian to English translation of the article and obituary. Some of the words are incorrect when translated, i.e., Lia is called a brother, and the he and shes are mixed up, but you certainly will understand it even if a bit confusing.
Obamas Adopted Sister Foster Brother and Maid? Barry Happiness, Happiness Non Mbak Sriwijaya, Indonesia Post Tuesday, January 20, 2009 U.S. PRESIDENT elected, Barrack Hussein Obama, was once a four-year stay in Indonesia. Although now widely separated by time and place, many Indonesian people who are made happy with the victory of Obama. One of them is Mbak Lia aka Non, foster brother when Obama was in Indonesia. I call him Barry because its hard to say Barrack. So, I call him Barry, said Lia (51), on Tuesday [Jan. 13] at her home, in Kampung Babakan Bantam, Sukasirna Village, District Cibadak, Sukabumi, West Java.
Lia meeting Barry is a coincidence. One morning in 1966, Lias new seven-year-old ran away from home. Lia little confused at being dumped into a house owned by Mrs. Siti Bogor. Apparently, Mrs Siti is a maid in the house the couple Lolo Sutoro and Stanley Ann Dunham in Jakarta. When Mrs Dunham Siti pick to return to Jakarta, he asked Allie to be adopted.
Two years after Allie to be adopted Sutoro and Dunham, Sutoro pick Barry from the U.S.. At that time, Sutoro become a manager at PT Pertamina. At first, Lia pleased that means it will have a friend and foster sister. We met, I said to my mother, I am not happy that a black child and could not speak Indonesian, said Lia.
Mrs Dunham convince Lia that Barry would be a nice sister. After obtaining Indonesian tutoring for seven months, Barry began to communicate with Lia and Siti who are called by Simbok.
Barry called Mbak Lia with a call girl, followed her mother calls. There are many memories in the mind of Barry Lia about the figure. . One of the unforgettable memories that Lia is a hobby Barrys speech.
Barry very happy listening to Suhartos speeches on television. When President Suhartos speech, Barry wrote it down neatly. After that, he practiced the speech of President Suharto in front of the house, says Lia.
One time, Barry was President Suhartos speech mimicked in an event several times declared Indonesia as a country that Gemah Ripah jinawi loh. Hes very difficult to spell those words, but to impose that sounds funny, says Lia.
At home, Barry and Lee shared a bedroom, but different beds. Barry and Lia always wanting to sleep and wake up together. When Lia got up earlier and leave Barry, he would be furious. After that, he then tied my hands and arms with a long rope. If one woke up, only allowed to leave the room when he woke the others, says Lia.
In 1971, Barry returned to Hawaii. Lia joined him and got three months in Hawaii before returning to Indonesia. In Hawaii, Lia often invited Barry to go to the beach or to go shopping. Lia sad when parting with Barry.
By the inauguration of Obama, Lia received notification will be invited by a member of Obamas successful team. However, until now there is no certainty. Despite claiming shed love to meet with his adopted brother, Lia chose her desire to bury deep. Lia was glad her sister is black, filthy, and often annoying it becomes U.S. President.
Raise the U.S. Presidents brother dies Friday, 02/26/2010 - 14:26
SUKABUMI, (PRLM) .- The desire Mrs. Holiyah (53) residents of Kampung Babakan Bantam, Village Sukasirna, Cibadak District, Sukabumi Regency wanted to meet the President of the United States (U.S.), Barrack Hussein Obama is disappeared. Holiyah Soetoro often called Lia, Thursday (25 / 2) died shortly before sunset.
Bodies of mother who has three children and four grandchildren, the Friday (26 / 2) is buried not far from his home. Seen her husband, Ibn [Edi] Sobah not withstand the power of compassion as Lias body was buried.
Lias death which was judged very suddenly hit her feelings. Several hours before her death her husband, [Edi] Ibn Sobah could receive short messages via his mobile telephone. He was interviewed a number of journalists inform the related plan of the arrival of his adopted brother, Barrack Obama to Jakarta.
He was very nostalgic to see Barry (Lias favorite call to Barack Obama ed). The news of U.S. Presidents arrival plans, had welcomed the coming months the deceased. But what say he died before seeing his adoptive brother, said suamiya, Ibn Sobah.
I thought we did know of this girl. She was a servant in the home and would sit out in the tree in front of Lolo’s house with Hussein. Hussein would throw something at the kids. I’ll have to go find it, but I do recall there was a girl.
Oh yeah ... and it’s highly probably that his
wandering mother was there at the same time ..
may have even helped with the great manuscript
of all time, along with Commie Ayers.
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Barack Obama’s Book
Barack Obama later got a fellowship and a publishing contract from the University of Chicago Law School to write a book about race relations. He travelled to Bali with his wife Michelle to complete writing this book. Obama’s autobiography book was published in 1995 and was titled, ‘Dreams From My Father’.
http://meowlife.blogspot.com/2009/01/president-barack-hussein-obama-ii.html
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Mommy dearest in Indonesia and Bali
Article
http://www.anthropology.hawaii.edu/News/Announcements/Dunham/dunham.html
Pics
http://www.anthropology.hawaii.edu/News/Announcements/Dunham/dunham_images/Ann_Dunham_Bali_001.jpg
Yes, we did indeed know of her. The link was posted Feb. 13, 2010.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2450678/posts?page=85
Starwise: That passport breach and its timing has been of particular interest to me for the past two years. Thanks for noting the timing of his admission about that trip to Pah-key-stahn. So once the passport files had been successfully sanitized, then it was safe to fess up.
Another link we discussed on Lia.
http://ournewsblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/story-of-nursemaid-barack-obama.html
Granny conveniently dies right in the middle of the election (supposedly). Lia, his hired companion, unexpectedly but conveniently dies right in the middle of spilling state secrets.
My reading of this difficult translation: Lia was living with her own grandfather when he died. They lived in the same building as a woman who was employed by Lolo and Stanley Ann (Eny) Soetoro as their housekeeper.
(Note that this girl says it was 1964. When she was 7. She was born in 1957. If this is true, then it’s an inconvenient truth because the “official” version goes that Stanley Ann and Lolo didn’t marry until 1965 (although one of her passport applications does say 1964) and that S. Ann didn’t go to Indonesia with little Barry until a year or more after she married Soetoro. Ruh oh, if Lia’s speaking truth.)
Going on with my take on the translation: After Lia’s grandfather died, the lady who was Soetoro’s housekeeper (Siti?) took her with her to work. It sounds as if nobody wanted Lia, perhaps grandfather was her sole remaining relative. S. Ann liked her and wanted her to become her foster child, so Lia moved in with the Soetoros and became like a sister to Barry, since he had few friends and Maya wasn’t yet born. She probably also was conscripted to do household chores. We know from other documents that S. Ann had domestic servants. Help me out—was this listed in the Soetoro divorce papers? I think it was.
As I recall, Lia says they took her in even before Barry came from Hawaii to Indonesia. So there’s another discrepancy between Lia’s tale and Barry’s “Dreams”. S. Ann was in Indonesia in 1964. At some later point, she went to Hawaii to “pick” Barry up. S. Ann had told Lia how wonderful it will be for her to have a brother.
Lia talks about Barry being abused and ridiculed by the children of the neighborhood. After one incident when they both came home bloody, S. Ann kept Barry inside and Lia kept him company. It sounds as if they attended the same school together for a time, and then Barry went to the other school—the Muslim one. The gift of a monkey is interesting. Remember that charm that Barry carries around—Hanuman, the monkey god?
We need a better translation.
Mbak Nun who was then 12-year-old nanny made by one of PT Pertamina Manejer named Lolo Suntoro, who was none other than Barack Obama stepfather.
At that time I ran away from home parents in Sukabumi. Suddenly there was a neighbor who worked as Mr. Lolo invited to Jakarta and to work and stay at home Mr. Lolo, said Lia aka Mbak Noon start raising Barack Obama story in the rented house...
yes, she's referred yo as his 12 year old NANNY.
Welcome ... any thread of a fact beyond
the smoke and mirrors is important. So
many lies have been purposely put out,
and so many facts have been scrubbed
from existence ... no one really knows
the total truth.
But one day ...
The truth always does come out ..
I hope I’m here when it happens.
OMG, the list of the conveniently dead goes on and on:
S. Ann dies right as he begins his political career and Ayers writes his fictional “auto”biography for him
Madelyn dies no sooner is he elected, after being held incommunicado throughout the campaign
Lia dies as she’s being interviewed by journalists, perhaps because Obama is scheduled to visit Indonesia, but he mysteriously cancels the trip, several times
Donald Young is murdered, during the controversy over Larry Sinclair’s allegations, before he could spill the beans
Lt. Quarles Harris, Jr. murdered, key witness in the passport breach investigation
I’m sure that I’ve missed some names. Anyway, this would make a good name for a goth rock group: The Conveniently Dead.
I hope I’m here, too, Starwise. May we all live to see the day. And I hope it’s soon.
GELF, the white woman with the glasses. Is she, perhaps, a genetically engineered life form? :)
Sounds like an episode of Law & Order with yuppie Manhattan couples “adopting” Haitian domestic child-slaves.
I really haven't been following all this, just sort of grazing a few threads now and then.
Obviously, there is deep back story here, as there is everywhere in zerOs life and milieu.
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Several usually implies more than two ( if it were two, most people would say a couple of ) . I don't know what the visa rules were in Indonesia back in the 90's , but if they were the same as today, he would only be able to stay for 60 days on a visitor visa with a US passport. It would be interesting to see how long he actually stayed there.
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