"I could offer my prognosis."
Posted on 08/07/2010 9:33:54 AM PDT by Leza2
HOLIYAH SOETORO SABAH, “LIA”, OBAMA’S ADOPTED SISTER
What information was taken to her grave?
You haven’t heard of Lia? Neither had we. The unknown, until now, adopted sister of Barack Hussein Obama died unexpectedly February 26, 1910. The USA media didn’t cover the story of this woman nor was her name found until the last few days. A competent WTPOTUS sleuth, Leza, and other researchers uncovered an article about an adopted “brother” in Indonesia, named Lia or Lee. Following up on a tidbit of information and other clues, more information was uncovered. Lia was an adopted sister, not a brother. Two Indonesian obituaries were just found. These tell the final tale of this woman nicknamed Lia.
Below is a tiny photo of Edi Sobat and Lia Soetoro Sobat.
Her name was Holiyah Soetoro Sobah, age 53, born in 1957. She was the wife of Edi Sobah, age 60. They live in West Java, Indonesia. They had three children: Heni; Marlina, age 27; and Nova Noni, age 25, and four grandchildren. In translated articles Barack Obama is referred to as her “adopted brother” and “foster brother.” The fact she used the name Soetoro certainly is telling. It appears that Lolo and Ann adopted Lia, but there is no documentation for that assumption, just her words in an article. The only knowledge we have about Lia is from one article and her obituaries.
An Indonesian article was written about Lia’s invitation to the presidential inauguration in 2008. She was very excited about seeing Barack Obama again. The last time they saw each other was in 1971 when Lia visited him in Hawaii. She was 14 at the time, and Barry was 10.
When Lia was leaving Hawaii after her 3 month long visit, Madelyn Dunham gave her a monkey doll and clothes that she is holding in her picture. The doll brought back so many fond memories that she was planning to give it to him when they met again.
She stated that she received her invitation to the presidential inauguration in a phone call from a close friend of Maya Soetoro, Barack Obama’s half sister. The translation said that a white woman who wears glasses and who she knows by the name of Gelf asked her to attend Obama’s inauguration. Gelf also asked her to be prepared to meet with Barry before hand. Additionally, Lia was told that a woman of status and means would be paying the Rp600.000 for her birth certificate and travel. After receiving the money, she was told to wait for further news about the final plans. Whether Lia came to the USA to attend the festivities in January, 2008 is unknown.
More information from the article said that Lia stayed at the home of Lolo Soetoro (Obama’s stepfather) and Ann Dunham Soetoro. If I understood the translation, one morning in 1966, Lia, age 7, ran away from home. She ended up at the house owned by Mrs. Siti Bogor. It happened that Mrs. Bogor was a maid who worked for Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham in Jakarta. At some point, Stanley Ann Dunham asked Mrs. Bogor if she could adopt Lia. The answer was yes.
She said she called Lolo and Ann, Mr. and Mrs Lolo Eny. In return, they called Lia ” Non” a nickname for Nona. She said, “I was always called Non, but Barry called me Ma’am Non.” When Lia lived with the Soetoros Maya hadn’t been born yet, and Barry was living with his grandmother in Hawaii.
After living with Lolo and Ann for awhile, “Eny” [Annie] promised to give her a sister who would keep her company. Ann told her, ” Stay well, I’ll pick up your brother Barry.” Two years later, Barry left Hawaii and went to Indonesia to live with Lolo, his mother, and Lia. Lia remembered that Obama was four years younger than she. She said that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961. Lia stated that Barry Obama went to school and got a basic education in Jakarta.
According to Lia, she and Barry were always together; they played, slept and bathed together. They traveled on vacations as a family as well. Several times they went to the summit, Yogyakarta, Bali, to the Land of Toraja (Sulawesi South), and the Bogor Botanical Gardens. They loved to travel.
Amazing isn’t it that this adopted sister has remained unknown and not acknowledged as part of Barack Obama’s life story. Her name was never mentioned in his books or by Maya Soetoro-Nyg. As far as we know, it appears Barack Obama didn’t attend his step sister’s funeral in Indonesia. Lia’s family need not feel bad, he nor Michelle or their children didn’t pay their respects to Grandma Madelyn either. Grandma Madelyn was not surrounded by loving family when she departed this earth, and a proper burial ceremony wasn’t performed. God rest their souls.
More facts may be revealed about Lia’s origins and her adoption by the Soetoro family. We are left to wonder what happened to her biological parents and why was she adopted by Lolo and Ann? Why did Lia run away from home? What happened to Lia after Stanley divorced Lolo? Who is Gelf? Who was the wealthy woman that sent money to Lia? Why has she been kept a secret? What caused her death? What secrets did she take to her grave?
Hours prior to her unexpected demise, she was talking to several journalists about Barry’s anticipated arrival to Jakarta, Indonesia. She was sending messages to her husband’s cell phone about those conversations. Unfortunately for her, Lia didn’t live to see Barack Obama, her “adopted, foster” brother, again. Lia died on Friday, February 26, 2010.
Below is the Indonesian to English translation of the article and obituary. Some of the words are incorrect when translated, i.e., Lia is called a brother, and the he and she’s are mixed up, but you certainly will understand it even if a bit confusing.
Obama’s Adopted Sister Foster Brother and Maid? Barry Happiness, Happiness Non Mbak Sriwijaya, Indonesia Post Tuesday, January 20, 2009 U.S. PRESIDENT elected, Barrack Hussein Obama, was once a four-year stay in Indonesia. Although now widely separated by time and place, many Indonesian people who are made happy with the victory of Obama. One of them is Mbak Lia aka Non, foster brother when Obama was in Indonesia. “I call him Barry because it’s hard to say Barrack. So, I call him Barry, “said Lia (51), on Tuesday [Jan. 13] at her home, in Kampung Babakan Bantam, Sukasirna Village, District Cibadak, Sukabumi, West Java.
Lia meeting Barry is a coincidence. One morning in 1966, Lia’s new seven-year-old ran away from home. Lia little confused at being dumped into a house owned by Mrs. Siti Bogor. Apparently, Mrs Siti is a maid in the house the couple Lolo Sutoro and Stanley Ann Dunham in Jakarta. When Mrs Dunham Siti pick to return to Jakarta, he asked Allie to be adopted.
Two years after Allie to be adopted Sutoro and Dunham, Sutoro pick Barry from the U.S.. At that time, Sutoro become a manager at PT Pertamina. At first, Lia pleased that means it will have a friend and foster sister. ” “We met, I said to my mother, I am not happy that a black child and could not speak Indonesian,” said Lia.
Mrs Dunham convince Lia that Barry would be a nice sister. After obtaining Indonesian tutoring for seven months, Barry began to communicate with Lia and Siti who are called by Simbok.
Barry called Mbak Lia with a call girl, followed her mother calls. There are many memories in the mind of Barry Lia about the figure. . One of the unforgettable memories that Lia is a hobby Barry’s speech.
Barry very happy listening to Suharto’s speeches on television. “When President Suharto’s speech, Barry wrote it down neatly. After that, he practiced the speech of President Suharto in front of the house, “says Lia.
One time, Barry was President Suharto‘s speech mimicked in an event several times declared Indonesia as a country that Gemah Ripah jinawi loh. ” “He’s very difficult to spell those words, but to impose that sounds funny,” says Lia.
At home, Barry and Lee shared a bedroom, but different beds. Barry and Lia always wanting to sleep and wake up together. When Lia got up earlier and leave Barry, he would be furious. ” “After that, he then tied my hands and arms with a long rope. If one woke up, only allowed to leave the room when he woke the others,” says Lia.
In 1971, Barry returned to Hawaii. Lia joined him and got three months in Hawaii before returning to Indonesia. In Hawaii, Lia often invited Barry to go to the beach or to go shopping. Lia sad when parting with Barry.
By the inauguration of Obama, Lia received notification will be invited by a member of Obama’s successful team. However, until now there is no certainty. Despite claiming she’d love to meet with his adopted brother, Lia chose her desire to bury deep. Lia was glad her sister is black, filthy, and often annoying it becomes U.S. President.
Raise the U.S. President’s brother dies Friday, 02/26/2010 - 14:26
SUKABUMI, (PRLM) .- The desire Mrs. Holiyah (53) residents of Kampung Babakan Bantam, Village Sukasirna, Cibadak District, Sukabumi Regency wanted to meet the President of the United States (U.S.), Barrack Hussein Obama is disappeared. Holiyah Soetoro often called Lia, Thursday (25 / 2) died shortly before sunset.
Bodies of mother who has three children and four grandchildren, the Friday (26 / 2) is buried not far from his home. Seen her husband, Ibn [Edi] Sobah not withstand the power of compassion as Lia’s body was buried.
Lia’s death which was judged very suddenly hit her feelings. Several hours before her death her husband, [Edi] Ibn Sobah could receive short messages via his mobile telephone. He was interviewed a number of journalists inform the related plan of the arrival of his adopted brother, Barrack Obama to Jakarta.
“He was very nostalgic to see Barry (Lia’s favorite call to Barack Obama — ed). The news of U.S. President’s arrival plans, had welcomed the coming months the deceased. But what say he died before seeing his adoptive brother, “said suamiya, Ibn Sobah.
Died 47 years before she was born?
Do you suppose any of the “facts” in this story are correct?
He ‘could’ survive his sister by 100 years if he’s Drac... Blacula.
But (seriously) this may be another layer of what no one knows about him - Barry Hussein Soeobamatero is a closed book. Self professed “citizen of the world” from at least three countries, without one valid birth certificate.
” Madelyn Dunham gave her a monkey doll and clothes that she is holding in her picture.
The doll brought back so many fond memories that she was planning to give it to him when they met again. “
Barry played with a doll as child ?
Well, that explains it.
“ According to Lia, she and Barry were always together; they played,
slept and bathed together. “
Again.. that explains it.
I bet they dressed alike , too.
In “ Dreams “ Barry said his nickname was “ Bar “ which sounds like it’s short for Barbara or Barbi.
Or Barf.
"I could offer my prognosis."
Lately I’ve been thinking that Obama, in spite of wherever he was born, gave up whatever citizenship to become a citizen of Indonesia.
I agree with everything you said.
The only thing creepier than this is the fact that a 14 year old and a 10 year old bathed together.
Never heard this strange tale ..... jeeze .. the maze surrounding these freaks.
Found something I translated from this site:
http://www.stars21.com/translator/indonesian_to_english.html
“Lia Soetoro, Obama’s brother is Not Recognized Lift
Sukabumi, Cybernews. Lia Soetoro, adopted brother of U.S. President Barack Obama, who died Thursday (25 / 2) and then, until the end of his life, still hoping to see his adopted brother. The desire was not fulfilled, even worse, Lia status as a foster brother was not recognized Obama’s family.”
Original source here:
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Another translated article:
Lia Soetoro, Obama’s brother is Not Recognized Lift
Sukabumi, Cybernews. Lia Soetoro, adopted brother of U.S. President Barack Obama, who died Thursday (25 / 2) and then, until the end of his life, still Maya Soetoro Obama Wants You Got Raise
WASHINGTON, Tribune - Brother President of the United States (U.S.), Barack Obama, Maya Soetoro Ng, denied that the woman named Lia Soetoro is Obama’s foster brother when he was living in Indonesia.
“During my life I never knew the name of Lia,” said Maya told VOA. Maya reveals, Lia who lived in Sukabumi, was never adopted by his biological father, Lolo Soetoro.
Touching on the information that states that Obama’s family had invited Lee to Hawaii, U.S., Maya also doubted the news.
“If he’s really never been to Hawaii, my grandmother would be remembered,” he said. He said that his late grandmother Lia said that the visit to Hawaii that never happened.
In fact, Obama and cousins they had never been named Lia offend anyone in their family.
“When I brought it to Barack, he never remembered. We have never heard stories about him (Lia). He was not in the family photo,” said Maya.
Maya was told that there are people who use the name Soetoro. For him, the family name is a name that is sacred. “Soetoro is the name of my father, so I do not want him (Lia) use the name because it does not have the right,” said Maya.
News circulated earlier, Lia is a small caretakers when Obama was in Jakarta. By Obama’s stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, Lia was appointed as a child. Media reported that Soetoro Lia will provide gift will be given a lift Obama’s brother.
Kado is a monkey doll wearing. The doll is no ordinary monkey. Lia also claimed to have successfully contacted Obama’s team to attend the inauguration of Obama. Meanwhile, Maya Soetoro had not yet decided to stay in Washington for a while.
He was present at the inauguration ceremony of Obama. However, he plans to return to Hawaii this weekend. As reported mediamedia U.S., Maya and her family are planning to move to Washington. According to sources close to Obama, Maya Soetoro and his family will move to Washington in May.
Maya wants to finish a job teaching history at La Pietra-Hawaii School for Girls. “We have not determined when it will move to Washington,” he told The Advertiser. “I have not confirmed the news in circulation”. (Okz
Original source:
http://www.tribunpekanbaru.com/read/artikel/4234
Translation site:
http://www.stars21.com/translator/indonesian_to_english.html
If searching Maya, don’t forget both Soetoro and Ng
This ironically appears in the last article:
“She said that he (-0)was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961.”
LOL ..
In some countries, Bar is a female name. Leonardo DiCaprio is currently datng a female supermodel, with the first name of Bar.
Thanks for the pings.
(Also following the comments at WTPOTUS ...)
Apparently that documentation problem is a family trait.
Hours prior to her unexpected demise, she was talking to several journalists about Barry’s anticipated arrival to Jakarta, Indonesia. She was sending messages to her husband’s cell phone about those conversations.
A backward glance, another arrogant remark that just skims the whole truth. So many of us *knew* what horrors awaited us then.
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“Passport breach March 21, 2008.
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said — Jake Tapper was there:
“So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa —knowing the leaders is not important — what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college — I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.”
Tapper was surprised and said:
This last part — a college trip to Pakistan — was news to many of us who have been following the race closely. And it was odd that we hadn’t hear about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign.
Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.”
Lia is a small caretakers when Obama was in Jakarta. By Obama’s stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, Lia was appointed as a child.
Does this translate as Lia was in the employment of Lolo to serve as a companion servant/playmate/nanny to Barry?
That would explain the rope thing. She was not allowed by her master to leave the room before he woke up. He was likely within his *rights*, according to that society, to tie her to him so he would know if she disobeyed.
*Adopted* is perhaps a conflation and perhaps she _was_ treated “as one of the family”, although one of a lower tier.
Do servants in Indonesia sometimes take on the name of their employer? IIRC, some Indonesians go by only one name.
You haven’t heard of Lia? Neither had we. The unknown, until now, adopted sister of Barack Hussein Obama died unexpectedly February 26, 1910. The USA media didn’t cover the story of this woman nor was her name found until the last few days.
. . . . Article, - also several interesting posts in the thread.
[Thanks hoosiermama.]
Interesting. The little Lightworker-Messiah might have had a slave of his own.
thanks for the ping, sounds like he had his own little body-slave, they were muslims, slavery is the norm...what bothers me is HOW did she die?
Cause unknown?
” “So when I speak about having lived in
Indonesia for four years, ..”
Barry conveniently ignores “ the several months “ that he moved with Michelle to Indonesia in the early 90s,
allegedly to finish his first autobiography .
If we are to believe Barry’s sister Maya and the New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/politics/18memoirs.html?_r=1
“ The Story of Obama ,Written By Obama “ New York Times, May 18, 2008
” His half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, said he eventually retreated to Bali
for several months with his wife, Michelle,
“to find a peaceful sanctuary where there were no phones.”
In 2008 , Jim Geraghty at NRO and subsequently Jack Cashill were the only two journalists to notice this little bombshell.
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