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AFTERMATH with William Shatner
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Posted on 08/03/2010 6:50:57 AM PDT by KeyLargo

I watched William Shatner's new TV show on the BIO channel last night. Bernhard Goetz was his guest on the show. For those freepers not old enough to remember, Bernie Goetz was praised as a hero back in 1984 for shooting four thugs threatening him on a New York subway car.

AFTERMATH with William Shatner

"William Shatner takes an in-depth look at what happens when people are tragically or infamously transformed from unknown citizens into household names overnight, taking viewers back to ... the dramatic events that dominated the American news cycle as he gains exclusive access to the newsmakers at the heart of each story - heroes, villains, perpetrators, victims, family members and law enforcement officials - to dig deep and separate the fact from the fiction. In each one-hour episode, new and often surprising information emerges, not only about the events themselves but about how people's lives have changed in the years since"

Aftermath

“01 - Bernhard Goetz” Tuesday, August 03 @ 11 pm ET

Rated: TVPG Running Time: 60 Minutes Genre: Closed Captions: Yes

Upcoming Showings: Tuesday, August 03 @ 11 pm ET

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William Shatner sits down with Bernhard Goetz, known to many as the Subway Vigilante. After years of silence on the subject, Goetz now talks openly of the day in 1984 when he shot four African American teenagers on the New York City subway -- but with a bizarre emphasis on the mechanics of how he was able to fire off five shots at four people in such a short burst of time. Hero or criminal? Victim or perpetrator? Goetz wonders whether he would have lived a normal life of marriage and family if fate and notoriety hadn't intervened.


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KEYWORDS: aftermath; banglist; crime; television; williamshatner
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William Shatner on Gun Control - It's How Well You Aim the Gun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0D78JtxmqI

1 posted on 08/03/2010 6:51:04 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0D78JtxmqI


2 posted on 08/03/2010 6:54:41 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

DENNY CRANE!!


3 posted on 08/03/2010 6:55:48 AM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day.)
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To: KeyLargo

I’d love to see an episode with Rodney King and Reginald Denny being interviewed together.


4 posted on 08/03/2010 6:59:18 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Ebony and Ivory....


5 posted on 08/03/2010 7:00:33 AM PDT by montyspython
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To: KeyLargo
what happens when people are tragically or infamously transformed from unknown citizens into household names overnight

The name Barack Obama comes to mind.

6 posted on 08/03/2010 7:02:27 AM PDT by relictele (Me lumen vos umbra regit)
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To: relictele

LOL

what happens when people are tragically or infamously transformed from unknown citizens into household names overnight

The name Barack Obama comes to mind.


7 posted on 08/03/2010 7:06:22 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

HERO!


8 posted on 08/03/2010 7:06:30 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: shove_it
 
Denny Crane!
 
2 minutes, best part at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itkq_lXJ9SI&feature=PlayList&p=D7A72E1968806051&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19
 

Gun Control works "Thank God for Guns" and Gun Control.

Even funnier!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KvO-8IvoCI
 
 

Captain Kirk Reads the Preamble to the Constitution

 

9 posted on 08/03/2010 7:07:14 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: All

Those thugs were from Africa?


10 posted on 08/03/2010 7:09:04 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: KeyLargo

Sounds like an interesting show (don’t get bio channel) but I’d much rather see Bill what’s-his-name from American Justice then Capt. Kirk as host.

I think it was the Priceline commercials that did it for me. (Though I will admit that the current evil parallel universe one is pretty funny)


11 posted on 08/03/2010 7:13:29 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KeyLargo

IIRC Goetz told a neighbor that he was the shooter.

She turned him in. If he had kept quiet he would have been safe from prosecution.

After that shooting subway crime dropped, big time.

The Goetz effect.

NYC could use a little (a lot) of that now.


12 posted on 08/03/2010 7:14:51 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: shove_it

“I AM KIROK!”


13 posted on 08/03/2010 7:32:05 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: KeyLargo
...but with a bizarre emphasis on the mechanics of how he was able to fire off five shots at four people in such a short burst of time.

Nothing bizarre about that. It wasn't a personal thing, he didn't know the muggers. He was simply defending himself.

Of course, in this chickified culture, EVERYTHING is supposedly "personal". Always got to bring up the feeeelings.

Bleah.

14 posted on 08/03/2010 7:53:59 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Carley

I lived around he corner from him then, used to see him often in the neighborhood, The city was a mess then, and I always felt he did he right thing to defend himself. But I will also say that he has “weirdo” and “loner” written all over him, and I very much doubt that he would have ever gotten married and had children no matter what.


15 posted on 08/03/2010 7:58:55 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Carley

“IIRC Goetz told a neighbor that he was the shooter.

She turned him in. If he had kept quiet he would have been safe from prosecution.”

Not according to Mr. Goetz.

He stated that he drove to New Hampshire and turned himself in to NH police.


16 posted on 08/03/2010 8:09:07 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: kabumpo

You are trying to have it both ways. NYC was that bad. Somebody was going to do what Bernie did. The dudes just messed with the wrong person and believe it or not we were all better off for it.


17 posted on 08/03/2010 8:10:50 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I agreee with you — I thought that was what I aaid.
ALso that even if theis hadn’ happened, he wasn’t a candidate for a normal life.


18 posted on 08/03/2010 8:13:27 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: KeyLargo
I recall that Goetz did blab to a neighbor, and then skipped town.

The police were already looking for him and had a search warrant for his apartment around the same time that he turned himself in.

I guess this would mean that you're both right.

19 posted on 08/03/2010 8:36:48 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Carley
IRRC Goetz told a neighbor that he was the shooter. She turned him in. If he had kept quiet he would have been safe from prosecution.

Exactly right. Neighbor asked why he was so glum. He told her.

HE broke the saying, "Shoot, shovel, shutup". He hung himself IMHO. Remember, this was a time before LOTS of cameras in the Metro. You couldn't get away with this today....unless you are very, very good at subterfuge.

20 posted on 08/03/2010 8:38:31 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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