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Ex-BYU student pleads guilty in attack on woman he was assigned to home teach
Deseret News ^ | July 27, 2010

Posted on 07/28/2010 7:29:14 AM PDT by Colofornian

Edited on 07/30/2010 3:24:48 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: aMorePerfectUnion; reaganaut; Colofornian

You guys are just brilliant. Great posts.


101 posted on 07/29/2010 6:39:43 AM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It doesn’t matter why he did it, it matters that he did do it, surround himself with Mormons. He didn’t fascinate daily upon a few scum of the earth as an example of malcontent of society trying to degrade the faith of some of his most trusted associates.

Truth is, Reagan respected and chose the men he associated with, because of their faith, or in spite of their faith, it doesn’t matter. He recognized character.

By their fruits he knew them. I miss Reagan.

Carry on.


102 posted on 07/29/2010 7:00:13 AM PDT by Ripliancum ("As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free")
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To: Elsie

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http://www.holyfetch.com/theories/bigfoot.html


103 posted on 07/29/2010 7:15:23 AM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: Ripliancum

I can agree with you that I miss Reagan.

The rest, is simply your opinion of Reagan’s motives. We don’t know why he chose them - even if he personally knew them. It appears you are reading his mind or assuming things that you have not provided evidence to support.

It is, in short, a normal mormon tactic of trying to portray legitimacy by associating with another object that carries legitimacy. It is the antithesis of an ad hominem attack - a logical fallacy of attacking the messenger instead of dealing with the underlying argument. In this case, it is an ad hominem implied blessing, instead of dealing with any underlying facts. If it is indeed true, it still does not make mormonism true.

But it remains unproven.

To the degree people served Reagan and country, I’m very proud of them ALL. The additional fact that somehow mormonites were represented among them is not consequential to this thread discussion.

best,
ampu


104 posted on 07/29/2010 8:10:41 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Seruzawa

“Such an unending screed of viciousness and hate. Sad really.”

It really is sad that someone could harbor so much hatred against an entire church. Something must have happened to her when she was a child.

I wasn’t kidding when I said that this type of obsession can lead to ‘acting out’ their hate in the form of personal physical attacks, i.e., a terrorist act. Possibly in the form of bombing a church, kidnapping Mormon children etc. Anything is possible. Let me put it this way, if there were an attack on a church, Colo would be the first to be questioned.

It may surprise many here to know that I am not a practicing Mormon, but have deep roots leading back to the very beginning. I will forever defend my family history and integrity from the vicious bile spewed from arrogant idiots.

We will be attacked for our thoughts and posts almost immediately. I take great delight in ruffling their feathers and watching them throw their little hissy fits.

I see where Colo has been spanked (again) by the Admin Moderator. This is not the first time she has changed text to fit her agenda.

Lets pray for them.


105 posted on 07/29/2010 8:54:33 AM PDT by panaxanax (Keep plucking those chickens and boiling that tar. There's a party coming in November!)
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To: panaxanax; Jim Robinson
I wasn’t kidding when I said that this type of obsession can lead to ‘acting out’ their hate in the form of personal physical attacks, i.e., a terrorist act. Possibly in the form of bombing a church, kidnapping Mormon children etc. Anything is possible. Let me put it this way, if there were an attack on a church, Colo would be the first to be questioned.

heartburn

106 posted on 07/29/2010 8:59:28 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Rush "They hate me because I am the most prominent, effective and unrelenting voice of conservatism")
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To: panaxanax
I wasn’t kidding when I said that this type of obsession can lead to ‘acting out’ their hate in the form of personal physical attacks, i.e., a terrorist act. Possibly in the form of bombing a church, kidnapping Mormon children etc. Anything is possible. Let me put it this way, if there were an attack on a church, Colo would be the first to be questioned.

You need serious help.

107 posted on 07/29/2010 9:11:46 AM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Are you suggesting he picked them BECAUSE they were Mormon?

Even I doubt that, but Reagan was a man who surrounded himself with people he respected.

Of course we don’t know his motives, but their religion certainly didn’t matter to him. Or maybe it did, in a good way, we just don’t know.

I respect him a great deal. I doubt he would have much use for these kinds of threads.

That is all.


108 posted on 07/29/2010 9:23:27 AM PDT by Ripliancum ("As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free")
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To: Colofornian; skyman

Youre not a reporter. Youre just a guy who thinks his beat is Mormons. But keep building strawmen to prove your point, very effective.

And skyman didn’t say that you either have to post everything or nothing. He just said that you are unwilling to post anything negative someone does unless they are Mormon.


109 posted on 07/29/2010 9:29:28 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: panaxanax; Admin Moderator; svcw
Have you no online manners? What? Do you just go around and gossip about people behind their back? When you gossip about someone, at least have the courtesy to ping them.

As for being "spanked," the AM was wrong. I explained that in post #88. I didn't alter any headline; the DesNews altered it. (It's their article; they can re-title it however and whenever they want to).

But it just goes to show you have absolutely no basis or credibility for your claims.

All you can do is engage in personal attacks. From henceforth, I'll take SVCW's advise & place you on permanent ignore. [And counsel other FI to do the same]

110 posted on 07/29/2010 9:35:12 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Raider Sam; skyman
He just said that you are unwilling to post anything negative someone does unless they are Mormon.

Not true. (As in a false claim...as in no basis in reality) The very first thread I posted this week, for example, was about a student @ Augusta State in Georgia who was being threatened with being kicked out. [No Mormon theme involved at all]

What's funny is to watch posters on this thread speak in such absolutes. And then when I point out, "No, this isn't so." They have to back off that claim & then try another personal attack angle.

I wouldn't try to put your "omniscient claims" on any kind of resume' or anything.

I think this thread has set a record for the most posts who side with a would-be rapist. Congrats!

111 posted on 07/29/2010 9:42:40 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Seruzawa
Don't I get a courtesy pin when you're discussing me, or is this your regular habit to go around & gossip about people behind their back?

As for generalizations, if you're so upset about them, where's your outrage over Joseph Smith labeling ALL Christian professors of faith as "corrupt"? (Joseph Smith, first vision, vv. 18-20 in PoGP) What about his claim that all Christians are "apostates"?

Apparently those "generalizations" spread throughout the world in hundreds of languages don't bother you, eh?

112 posted on 07/29/2010 9:49:23 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Colofornian
Yep. Sorta like those threads that defend the flds.
Amazing isn't that this thread became about you and not about assault and attempted rape. Just shows they got bupkis.
113 posted on 07/29/2010 9:50:46 AM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: Colofornian
I think this thread has set a record for the most posts who side with a would-be rapist. Congrats!

gobsmacked

114 posted on 07/29/2010 9:58:07 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Rush "They hate me because I am the most prominent, effective and unrelenting voice of conservatism")
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To: svcw; All
Yep. Sorta like those threads that defend the flds. Amazing isn't that this thread became about you and not about assault and attempted rape. Just shows they got bupkis.

It also shows image-control obsession.

Name any rapist or would-be rapist of an Evangelical background. Would I go on the attack against someone merely passing on the info? (Not on your life)

Such men deserves whatever condemnation & jail time we can give them.

But FReeper posters of late? Even many non-Mormons. Beyond obsessive image control, I guess I just don't understand the advocacy connection unless it comes from men who have "been there, done that" at least in their minds and identify more with the perp than they do the Mormon victim.

115 posted on 07/29/2010 9:58:59 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Colofornian; svcw
"I guess I just don't understand the advocacy connection unless it comes from men who have "been there, done that" at least in their minds and identify more with the perp than they do the Mormon victim. "

That is harsh, yet I understand your point.

116 posted on 07/29/2010 10:06:09 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Colofornian

It must be from all the pressure to be perfect for salvation and exaltation!

Thank you Jesus!


117 posted on 07/29/2010 10:11:38 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: roylene
Well, the "scoreboard" shows it on this thread. Count up the # of compassionate comments about the Mormon victim in this crime. And then count up the vitriolic comments aimed at the poster who highlighted this crime.

Message given across all of FReeperland: Don't you dare post anything negative about...
(a)...Mormon criminals (Signed: Lds Image-control obessessives)
or (b)...would-be rapists (Signed: Fill-in-the-blank for what moves non-Mormons to be this man's advocate)

118 posted on 07/29/2010 10:12:06 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Colofornian

Are you a Christian? (I can’t tell from your posts). If so, what denomination are you?


119 posted on 07/29/2010 10:16:52 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: panaxanax
I will forever defend my family history and integrity from the vicious bile spewed from arrogant idiots.

Then I suppose you'll be really quick to point out any ERROR that has been posted?

120 posted on 07/29/2010 10:17:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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