Did the average german citizen fear the nazi healthcare regime?

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Has anybody else ever thought about it this way?

I think it's obvious that the nazis used the healthcare system as a control. At least, it was only one level of control. The bundespost(their version of the FCC) was another level of it via Goebbels and his propaganda.

[mnehring]

There were very few willing to join the banner of the black, red, and gold or white rose, and fee who did join lived to tell there tale.

[ClearCase_guy]

Sophie Scholl's last words were "How can we expect righteousness to prevail when there is hardly anyone willing to give himself up individually to a righteous cause. Such a fine, sunny day, and I have to go, but what does my death matter, if through us thousands of people are awakened and stirred to action?"

As you say, there were few who had the courage and many of those gave their lives for the struggle. In America, we have some more hope because we have a gun culture. Many people in the US are just armchair cowboys who probably wouldn't rise up and do anything. But we certainly have a good number of folks who have the will, and the means, to stand up and say "No".

[a fool in paradise]

The terminally and mentally ill were the first to be killed off by the Nazis. They cost the State resources, accommodations, and services.

They weren't simply denied care, they were deliberately exterminated.

[Fred Hayek]

I suspect that the Germans were already pre-conditioned for it from living under the paternalistic state as set up by Bismarck.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

I like that observation.

Through the decades, they were toned into being sheeple.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

That is true, which is part of what gave the people a reason to fear the healthcare regime.

[caver]

I would think that in 1938, Hitler had a higher approval rating than Obama does today. Hitler was cheered for bringing Germany out of a depression and putting people to work. Today, Obama is getting us in a depression and putting people out of work.

Now, of course, in 1939 and after, Hitler’s approval rating was going down.

[givemELL]

All medicine was private in the thirties, just as in the US. There were no social programs, no healthcare taxes, no healthcare insurance, etc. Each person and his family were accountable for the best care they could personally find, and the govt. had no participation in the training or control of anything medical.

It seems to me, off the cuff, that the Germans had no reason to expect the govt. to become involved in medicine at all, and, when it did, they accepted it as part of their new Nazi prosperity.

The Jewish viewpoint can be expected to have been more anticipatory of what German govt. intrusion into medicine might mean for them. I think the exodus prior to 1939 related to existential issues rather than healthcare issues.

However, I have read nothing on this question. It is a good one.

[Melas]

Apples and oranges. In 1938 medical care was largely palliative. The Germans in 1938 didn’t have nearly as much to lose with state controlled health care as we do today.

[FourPeas]

Has anybody else ever thought about it this way?

Yes. Starting five years ago, we made changes to the way we get healthcare.

[Boardwalk]

I know people who despise 0bama, but they would never put it out there for anyone to see. They believe that that could get them in trouble one day. What does that say???? It’s just like Nazi Germany!

[Manta]

The average German should have feared Nazi medicine. Before the Jews were killed, the government sent euthanasia personnel around to get rid of the old, infirm crippled and mentally ill to reduce the financial load on the government. The government decided who fit in those categories and when.

[NavyCanDo]

I’m not sure about the average German citizen but they did have people smart enough to look around and saw what was happening, and sacrificed their lives trying to stop the madness going on around them.

They called themselves, The White Rose.

Here is a GREAT movie about them.

Sophie Scholl: The Final Days

Sophie Scholl was arrested and then executed by guillotine by the Third Reich for distributing anti-Nazi leaflets at her college campus. For this she was beheaded along with several of the other brave young God fearing people of the “White Rose”, an underground Nazi resistance movement. This is a dramatization of that event, it is a movie that will not leave you and will have you thinking about it for days after viewing.

Watch the Trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM5A4ETW_Io

The White Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkoJgPkFoDs&feature=related

[caver]

Those people must be paying attention, unlike a lot of others. I know people who don’t have clue as to what is happening to our country right now.

[Talisker]

Apples and oranges. In 1938 medical care was largely palliative. The Germans in 1938 didn’t have nearly as much to lose with state controlled health care as we do today.

Allopathic "medical care" was indeed largely palliative then. But in Nazi Germany, and then America, Naturopathy, Homeopathy and Osteopathy (and later Chiropractic, and also Traditional Chinese Medicine, Acupuncture and Ayurveda, as well as Rife technology), had to be restricted, and then defined out of existence so that Allopathic medicine could finally claim to be all of medicine, and any other medical practitioners legally wiped out.

[Boardwalk]

There are those people who are paying careful attention to what is going on, they are just keeping quiet. They are going to vote, however.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

—————However, I have read nothing on this question. It is a good one.———————

I appreciate that.

As to the rest of your post, I’m not sure how to respond to it. Or, that there’s just something lost in translation.

Here’s why I say that:

And yes, I appologize for using this site as a source. I’d encourage nobody to click the link and instead use google to see what I’m talking about:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-berenbaum/nazi-medicine_b_258640.html

-—————Germany has had universal health care for 120 years, unlike the U.S.———————

It was Bismarck who usurped healthcare from the people and made it a governmental program. Been that way ever since, unless you wish to tell me the error in my thinking.

[Seruzawa]

Now THAT is the most poisonous aspect of modern healthcare. So many people believe that the only solution to illness is drug, cut and burn.

Allopathy is good for many conditions but is worthless and even harmful for many others. Yet the Allopaths continue to falsely pretend that they have the only workable technology. Govt healthcare is just another dodge to protect the Allopaths’ near monopoly.

[caver]

Oh I hope so.