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To: dajeeps

Maybe governments can’t simply create prosperity out of thin air.

Perhaps debt itself is the problem. Debt is deflationary. Too much debt and the rest of what Japan does for the next 20 years...from 1989 through to today...accomplishes nothing.

Who knows, maybe we’ve seen this show time and again, 1893, 1929, 1989, and today...and still haven’t figured out how to handle it.


2 posted on 07/22/2010 12:36:57 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Perhaps you are right, but I do not understand why the target rate of ~1% vs. the 2-3% that is considered healthy. Why not zero or negative? How about some serious and unadulterated deflation?

Debt becomes deflationary when the holders of that debt can no longer pay because 1) trend inflation expectations are already baked into the contract and they end up owing more than what they expected to pay and 2) because of the consequences of tightening causes them to lose income. Disinflation and deflation make that a reality. The Fed was created to regulate it, not cause it which it apparently did when it felt that 1% inflation was better than 2 or 3%.

I want to know why. Don’t you?


3 posted on 07/22/2010 12:56:41 AM PDT by dajeeps
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To: Southack
"Who knows, maybe we’ve seen this show time and again, 1893, 1929, 1989, and today...and still haven’t figured out how to handle it."

There is no free lunch. Everything must, and will, one way or another, be paid.,

The Fed was created on a socialist notion and is one of the greatest wealth destroying machines ever invented. It's effects are readily seen in the destruction of physical manufacturing, thousands of once productive great cities, soon to be once great states.

You asked about its employment task. For get about it. Families are the official shock absorber of the state. Errors and costs, and now generational slave debts, are dumped upon them. Sheeple are for shearing.

We have now for two years had the largest borrowing, debts, and so called stimulas since WWII. Only this time we have not built( not that we could anymore) any manufacturing........in the US. It is in China. We have not borrowed from savings( we don't have any) We borrowed from the Chinese. So, so much for multiplier effect, if if there is one. What spending has taken place has been on already employed union government workers( there's a productivity lifting crew!).

Since the government either bailed out its Mini-Me paper money partners, the banks, AIG, GM, etc, or just paid its union 'workers', with the rest of the borrowed money flowing to China, and some to unproductive, price rising boondoggles like solar and wind power, I don't see how we do recover.

Next up, more taxes to service the debt and more spending to keep the lid on domestic/popular anger.

6 posted on 07/22/2010 1:06:47 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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