So let’s see. Jesus said love your neighbor as you love yourself. That means you’ll gladly let the neo-Maoists deprive you of your job, your home, your children, even your known whereabouts. I’m sure I’m right, because that’s what you’ll let happen to us, and as a good observer of the Golden Rule, that means you’d be just as happy if it happened to you, right?
Well, I find that kind of odd for a Catholic, because someone I know of with a funny hat paints quite a different picture than you do of our Declaration of Independence, what it means, and what it implies about your moral obligation to the rest of us:
“The United States of America was founded on the conviction that an inalienable right to life was a self-evident moral truth, fidelity to which was a primary criterion of social justice. The moral history of your country is the story of your people’s efforts to widen the circle of inclusion in society, so that all Americans might enjoy the protection of law, participate in the responsibilities of citizenship, and have the opportunity to make a contribution to the common good. Whenever a certain category of people—the unborn or the sick and old—are excluded from that protection, a deadly anarchy subverts the original understanding of justice. The credibility of the United States will depend more and more on its promotion of a genuine culture of life, and on a renewed commitment to building a world in which the weakest and most vulnerable are welcomed and protected.”
~Pope John Paul II
BTW, if we’re all, from your perspective, just a bunch of eternally doomed, time-wasting graffiti-writers who deserve no protection from the encroaching tyranny, what are you doing here? It’s not to foster unity against the destroyers of our country, that’s for sure. Catholic evangelism, then? Or are you intentionally sowing discord and despair among brethren as part of some perceived religious duty to “help the prophecy along?” Fatima, of course, the suppressed, apocalyptic version.
Yes.
That means you’ll gladly let the neo-Maoists deprive you of your job, your home, your children, even your known whereabouts.
I won't "let" them. They'll do it whether I "let" them or not. They have all the power. They could do it to me or to you right now. It happens to people all the time. The only reason it hasn't happened to anyone here on FR is because no one here poses any real threat. If any of us were a real threat, they'd Wacoize us.
I’m sure I’m right, because that’s what you’ll let happen to us, and as a good observer of the Golden Rule, that means you’d be just as happy if it happened to you, right?
I have no idea what you mean here. I wish I were a good observer of the Golden Rule.
Well, I find that kind of odd for a Catholic, because someone I know of with a funny hat paints quite a different picture than you do of our Declaration of Independence, what it means, and what it implies about your moral obligation to the rest of us:
“The United States of America was founded on the conviction that an inalienable right to life was a self-evident moral truth, fidelity to which was a primary criterion of social justice. The moral history of your country is the story of your people’s efforts to widen the circle of inclusion in society, so that all Americans might enjoy the protection of law, participate in the responsibilities of citizenship, and have the opportunity to make a contribution to the common good. Whenever a certain category of people—the unborn or the sick and old—are excluded from that protection, a deadly anarchy subverts the original understanding of justice. The credibility of the United States will depend more and more on its promotion of a genuine culture of life, and on a renewed commitment to building a world in which the weakest and most vulnerable are welcomed and protected.” ~Pope John Paul II
I agree with every word. Now please post the one where he says that we're supposed to start shooting people.
BTW, if we’re all, from your perspective, just a bunch of eternally doomed, time-wasting graffiti-writers who deserve no protection from the encroaching tyranny
Eternally doomed? I have no idea. I hope not.
Time-wasting graffiti-writer? In your case, yes.
Deserving of protection from the encroaching tyranny? There is no protection from tyranny in this world. And as for what we deserve — if Jesus Christ didn't deserve protection, nobody does.Yet no one protected Jesus from tyranny. He did a criminal's death. No one protected St. Stephen from tyranny, either. No one protected the Apostles from tyranny. (All but one of them died horrible deaths at the hands of tyrants.) No one protected the martyrs of the Coliseum from tyranny, or the martyrs of Lyons, or the martyrs of Japan, or St. Joan of Arc, or poor Saint Lawrence, who got roasted on a freaking grill. God decided to allow these truly holy people to die in shame, crushed beneath the bootheel of tyranny. Do you think we deserve better? If so, you're fooling yourself.
It is the duty of the Christian to suffer. Our Lord did. As tyranny gets worse, we're just going to have to shut up and take it. Christians have been doing that since the days of Nero.
What are you doing here?
Watching the human circus go by. It's an amusing pastime.
It’s not to foster unity against the destroyers of our country, that’s for sure.
Our country was destroyed years ago. All we're doing now is propping up the corpse.
Catholic evangelism, then?
Me? i wish. I'm the world's worst Catholic. Sure, I know the rules, but when it comes to following them, I stink.
Or are you intentionally sowing discord and despair among brethren as part of some perceived religious duty to “help the prophecy along?” Fatima, of course, the suppressed, apocalyptic version.
Yes. You have found me out. I am a part of the international Opus Dei conspiracy to bring about the Third Secret of Fatima. Curses, foiled again.
(Actually, we Catholics aren't into immanentizing the Eschaton. That's really an Evangelical sort of thing.)
FRiend, I'm tired of talking about this. I don't really care what you think on any subject, anyway. If it pleases you to live in a fantasy world where rednecks with deer rifles can defeat an army with tanks and helicopters, I won't try to talk you out of it. Relax and enjoy the comfort of your own delusions.