IMO, some will. They will follow the orders they are given and, if ordered to shoot, they will shoot. But, what will they shoot? Guns? You betcha.
I agree. Some will. And the others - the one's who won't will be moved to non-confronting units. But, our odds increase for success the more Obama's army sees us as Americans and not as 'the other'. In Iran - at one point - the ruling thugs had to bring in outsiders to shoot at and arrest young student protesters. Too many were known to the regular police and army - and they wouldn't shoot the kids. That's a lesson for us.
We have to create that mindset. The Tea Parties have been a wonderful psychological safeguard for us. Our side has been demonized - effectively. The radical elite left can't work their lies easily when Tea Party members are everyday Americans wearing light pastels and carrying homemade signs. Even the brain washed press has been able to see Tea Party members are their friends, neighbors, and family. It would be hard to shoot into a Tea Party.
And that's where the psychological units on our side need to focus... Elite radical liberals are working to present us as "the other". Kind of what Hitler did to the Jews before extermination camps were set up. Liberal elite groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center are behind much of this type of propaganda - they work to create the appearance conservatives are "sub-humans - the other - not worthy of civil protections... That's wrong of them. If we don't counter this, we're going to lose no matter what...
Statements of "this far and no further" must be written. If radical liberal elites start killing people on our side - Rush, Hannity, Supreme Court conservatives, FOX News people - that's a "crossed the line" act. If radical liberal elites start opening re-education or death camps - that's also a 'crossed the line' act. All our positions need to be acceptable to the vast majority of citizens. It won't work otherwise. Forewarned citizens are a safeguard. Waiting until groups are being loaded on trains won't work. Citizens will justify it just like they did in Germany.
Our fellow citizens need to be on board BEFORE something happens. Psych-teams can work out details.
Now's the time to clarify values. I have mine - but strength comes in numbers. Here's what I will NOT fight about... If there's a duly elected group - liberals - and they make laws I hate - that's their right. When we're in office, we'll make laws they hate - and expect them to follow those laws. It's a free country. Election winners get to call the shots. It's how the system works. I like that - I believe in our system of government. If we don't like what liberals are doing (legally) then we can work harder and VOTE THEM OUT. That's how a free culture - rule of law - country works it.
So let me know, where's 'your line' - what's your plan... details for the future - not history...
Fair enough. I think that, for the most part, we are on the same page. I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. Where we, perhaps disagree, is on the election. Assuming that we are allowed to have a fair election, I am willing to let the next Congress take its best shot. However, I am not convinced that the Republicans (if they succeed in taking control of one or both houses of Congress) will be the salvation of our Republic that so many here seem to think. The Republicans have a history . . . and, in the past 15 - 20 years, it isn't that great.
IMO, the Republicans will be more about show than substance. Smoke and mirrors, NOT concrete conservative results. They'll probably make a splashy show trying to repeal Obama's DeathCare, but I am not convinced that they have the stomach for the political fight that that will ignite. As for the rest, I think they will quietly sweep that stuff under the carpet so that it's still there, just out of sight.
So, that means that for the next year or so, our battleground will be between the people's ears - the psychological side that you defined so well while we wait to see exactly what the Republicans can/will do. I'd love to believe that I am way off base on this, but I honestly don't think so. They have a history of disappointing their base and I don't think anything has changed.
Which takes us to the next phase - what will likely be the uprising. Unfortunately, it will be while the Republicans (hopefully) control some part of the Congress so it will look as though we are rising up against THEM instead of all of the egregious acts of zero and the leftists (regardless which side of the aisle they occupy!). This is just a factor that we will have to correct over time in the history books. In the meantime, I think we have about a year to develop and "socialize" ( a term a marketing manager at a company I worked at used) our message to the American people that the Tea Partiers only want to return America to the great nation that it has been - AND a nation that includes and provides opportunities for ALL of our citizens!!
By far, the LAST thing I want is to wake up tomorrow morning with guns blazing to try to take control of the government. While my initial post on this topic may have conveyed that idea, it was an attempt to be provocative and get people thinking . . . . and talking. Most of all, I appreciate the opportunity that you and I have had to discuss and clarify our ideas and find those common areas of agreement. Nonetheless, in the final analysis, IF it comes to an armed uprising, I believe that the cause is just and that this nation, with all of its flaws and diverse opinions, is worth fighting for. We can't correct all of the ills that liberalism has instilled in the population overnight but, through that psychological "warfare" you described, we can begin the process of making people proud of America and its history again. And, that will be necessary to get the sheer numbers of people onboard that we will need.
Are we good, now?
I agree . . . . up to a point. When liberals "win" elections by fraud, intimidation, manipulation and lying, they have discredited themselves AND their "right" to make the laws.
And, THIS is where we are today. When the dumbed down masses voted zero and his henchmen in, they weren't voting for communism, they were voting for anyone who wasn't either Bush or a "demonized" Republican.
There's a HUGE difference between winning an election fair and square, and winning by deceit. But, you seem to accept either one.
I don't. And that may be an unbridgeable gap that will always divide us.