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To: Red Steel
LOL... generations through Milleniums (sic) have defined the term in English "natural botn citizen," huh?

As for "natural born" versus "naturalized," though, it has been around for a while, if not millenia. Those are the two types of citizen, those born into it and those naturalized.

And the 14th Amendment does not change the meaning and intent of the natural born citizen clause in Article 2 of the US Constitution.

Exactly.

159 posted on 07/21/2010 6:59:06 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
As for "natural born" versus "naturalized," though, it has been around for a while, if not millenia. Those are the two types of citizen, those born into it and those naturalized.

LoL...yes, de Vattel did not make up who are the natural born as he only documented them in his book. Vattel's definition of natural born citizens dates back to Roman times.

You seem to think that the 14th Amendment created natural born citizens. No, the 14th Amendment naturalized citizens and naturalized them at birth. You cannot create by law a non-citizen and turn them into an NBC, and neither could Congress through an amendment.

From the flawed opinion in Ankeny, Kruse v. Indiana, however, the judges did get the bold and underlined correct:

"For all but forty-four people in our nation‟s history (the forty-four Presidents), the dichotomy between who is a natural born citizen AND who is a naturalized citizen under the Fourteenth Amendment is irrelevant."


That's 'naturalized citizen under the 14th Amendment' - not natural born citizens.

160 posted on 07/21/2010 7:37:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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