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Apple Is Not Expected to Recall Troubled iPhone
New York Times ^ | 7/15/10 | MIGUEL HELFT

Posted on 07/16/2010 7:36:37 AM PDT by RachelFaith

As Apple prepared to address the mounting controversy surrounding the antenna of the iPhone 4, one thing appeared clear: the company does not plan to recall the popular device.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; ilovebillgates; iphone; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; jobs; microsoftfanboys; recall
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To: antiRepublicrat

Why are you trying to turn this into an EVO discussion?

If Steve Jobs agrees with me will you admit you are mistaken?


61 posted on 07/16/2010 12:56:17 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
> If Steve Jobs agrees with me will you admit you were mistaken on this topic?

Please read my post #60, and then tell me: What the heck are you talking about?

62 posted on 07/16/2010 12:57:26 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: for-q-clinton
> Tell it to apple’s senior antenna egineer. He warned them this would happen.

Bullshit urban legend of the tech blogs and anti-Apple fanatics. All parties actually involved deny that that happened.

63 posted on 07/16/2010 12:58:59 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Will you agree that you are mistaken that software can’t overcome the science behind antennas being “detuned” when touched.


64 posted on 07/16/2010 1:02:14 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton; dayglored

Meant to say...if Steve Jobs said that.


65 posted on 07/16/2010 1:03:07 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dayglored; antiRepublicrat

well how about it? Are you too busy searching what Steve Jobs may have said before you agree to my simple question.

If Steve Jobs said they aren’t able to fix the laws of antenna science via software will you agree you were mistaken?


66 posted on 07/16/2010 1:06:17 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
> Will you agree that you are mistaken that software can’t overcome the science behind antennas being “detuned” when touched.

If you had bothered to read my earlier posts in this thread, you would have seen that I said that PRIOR to Steve Jobs and his press conference. For instance, post #3:

I'll agree that the possibility exists for a software-only fix,... *IF* the problem is a software-only problem.

Long experience tells me that software cannot correct a hardware problem: it can accommodate the problem, it can mask the problem, and in some cases it can ameliorate the problem. But it cannot correct it in a true engineering sense.

I'm sorta hoping they own up to a hardware problem and correct it in a new release...

D-uh.

And that's exactly what they did. They owned up to a hardware problem and and a software problem, and they're addressing each one correctly. In the meantime, the bumper is a workaround for the existing phones.

What the hell is your problem with that? It's a perfectly reasonable response.

67 posted on 07/16/2010 1:10:36 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: for-q-clinton
You've become repetitive and boring, and are wrong.

Bye, troll.

68 posted on 07/16/2010 1:11:42 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: for-q-clinton
you may have a point about software being able to take the physical properties of antennas and reshape the antenna as needed for signal strength.

I'm talking about tuning. Putting your finger over an antenna isn't going to affect the ability of the signal to get to and from it much. The problem is that by putting something near an antenna, or by touching it, you change the tuning of the antenna.

I am not saying it is definitely the case for the iPhone, but the technology to allow software to dynamically change the tuning of a physical antenna has been around for a while. Just think, you can program a robot arm to turn a dial to re-tune your antenna. If some one touches the bunny ears, throwing the tuning off, the robot moves the dial until it's back in tune. Why can't it be done in a more efficient manner within a high-tech cell phone?

69 posted on 07/16/2010 1:12:08 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat; dead

We need “dead” to whip up Apple’s new logo, only it’s a rotten apple ...


70 posted on 07/16/2010 1:13:07 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: dayglored

My problem is you say I’m digging a hole for talking about the HARDWARE issue can’t be fixed via software. I guess you and anti-republicrat seem to think it can be.

So why won’t you answer my question or just flat out agree with me know. The hardware problem can NOT be fixed via software or even masked in a way to make a call complete when touching the phone drops the signal to much to make a call. Your earlier responses indicate they may be able to work some software magic to work around the laws of antenna science. If that’s not what you were saying and you in fact agree with me that they won’t be able to work around the issue via software then we are in violent agreement.


71 posted on 07/16/2010 1:13:57 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dayglored
Bye, troll.

When beat in discussion run away by claiming troll. Nice. I guess you are too afraid to take the Steve Jobs agreeing with me challenge.

72 posted on 07/16/2010 1:15:27 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Ok so you’re saying you can change the properties of the antenna via software which I say you can’t as that will violate the laws of science.

Do you think Steve Jobs agrees with me or you?


73 posted on 07/16/2010 1:16:46 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
Here's an example of a product that provides software control of the capacitors to dynamically match the impedance of the antenna system, and thus auto-correct for any de-tuning.
74 posted on 07/16/2010 1:21:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Once again you claimed it could be fixed in software on the iPhone. So do you think Steve Jobs agrees with ME or YOU?

Why are you avoiding that question?


75 posted on 07/16/2010 1:22:52 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dayglored

They announced that the free case offer was only for phones purchased before the end of September. That leads me to believe that a solution has been found and that phones without the defect are on their way with an ETA of before the end of September.


76 posted on 07/16/2010 1:40:45 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc

I was thinking the same thing. I bet they put a clear hard coating around the edge to help. Kind of like a built in clear rubberband.


77 posted on 07/16/2010 1:51:50 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Rutles4Ever
if we’re going to assume that 0.5% of complaints means 99.5% “no problemo”, then we should also assume that everyone loves the government.
My wife and I went to Washington last September. That was a lot more of fuss, and a lot more expensive, than driving to the nearest Apple store. And we saturated the venue, to such an extent that the police ordered that the parade start early so that crowd wouldn't go into gridlock. So much so that the famous claim that the police department estimated the crowd at about 60,000 was true - as of an hour before the march was even scheduled to start!!
By contrast, the "protesters" of the iPhone4 reception issue are outnumbered 200;1 by people who register their appreciation for the phone by ordering it, waiting for it, paying for it, and subsequently keeping it.
And it isn't even a given that every returned iPhone represents dissatisfaction with your particular hobby horse, reception performance. Phones were returned before this brouhaha even erupted - maybe most of the returns reflect one or more other factors?

78 posted on 07/16/2010 1:55:30 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ( DRAFT PALIN)
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To: for-q-clinton

Jobs is not an engineer and tends to put his foot in his mouth when doing anything relating to support without first consulting his engineers. IOW, I don’t care.


79 posted on 07/16/2010 2:00:52 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Got it. So you know that Jobs is agreeing with me on this.

Glad to know it. Don’t you think his engineers would have him briefed on the laws of science by now though? And if so that means his engineers agree with me as well.


80 posted on 07/16/2010 2:02:39 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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