Battle of Hubbardton fought once more

Rutland Herald ^ | July 8, 2010 | Gordon Dritschilo

[Pharmboy]

While I never post articles about reenactments, I thought that this had enough unique material to make it worthwhile.

And how many thought that Vermont was an original of the 13 colonies? When asked to name them, many folks pick Maine and Vermont, but neither was.

You know them, of course: MA, NH, RI, CT, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, VA, NC, SC, GA

[Pharmboy]

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[JoeProBono]

[sinanju]

Kinda reminds me of that humorous early episode of “Gilmore Girls” when the town is gearing up for their Revolutionary War re-enactment of an incident when the local militia formed up for battle against an advancing redcoat element that never showed up.

[Past Your Eyes]

We’ve been there. Nice place. Not too far off the beaten path (US Rte 4).

[Pharmboy]

Thanks once again, Joe. That looks like a tough bunch, eh?

[2banana]

The Vermonters were joined by regiments for Massachusetts and New Hampshire.

FROM Massachusetts and New Hampshire???

[Pharmboy]

Yeah...I left it alone when I saw it. It looks like they need some proofreading help in Rutland.

[Oshkalaboomboom]

I used to go there to visit when I was a kid, my Grandparents had a summer home on Beebee Pond, the first lake after Lake Bomoseen on hwy 30. Beautiful state, wack people.

[ZULU]

Thanks for that link Pharmboy.

I hadn’t heard of that particular battle.

[colorado tanker]

I believe at the time Maine was considered part of the Massachusetts Bay Colony and Vermont was considered part of New York, although New Hampshire disputed that.

[Mase]

I used to go there to visit when I was a kid, my Grandparents had a summer home on Beebee Pond

My parents spend every summer and fall on Beebe Pond. As a kid, I used to spend the summer there and then ski various mountains during the winter. I took my kids to the reenactment two years ago (it was a big anniversary of the battle and they had a huge turnout) and the kids loved it. It's a great state as long as you stay out of Burlington.

[Gondring]

The British held the field and more than 200 prisoners at the end of the battle, but it is still celebrated as the action bought the rest of the Continental Army time to escape.

Where's the obligatory, "but their morale was still high," that seems to follow up so many battle descriptions? :-)

[Pharmboy]

Vermont was pretty adamant that they did NOT want to part of NY...on ME, ya got me...

[SunkenCiv]

What?!? You didn’t list them in the order that they ratified the Constitution?!? Geez... ;’)

[Pharmboy]

Well, you are one of the few who would ask, but since you did:

1.Delaware - December 7, 1787
2.Pennsylvania - December 12, 1787
3.New Jersey - December 18, 1787
4.Georgia - January 2, 1788
5.Connecticut - January 9, 1788
6.Massachusetts - February 6, 1788
7.Maryland - April 28, 1788
8.South Carolina - May 23, 1788
9.New Hampshire - June 21, 1788
10.Virginia - June 25, 1788
11.New York - July 26, 1788
12.North Carolina - November 21, 1789
13.Rhode Island - May 29, 1790

...and that’s why it says “The First State” on the DE license plate. And, Cesar Rodney was a stud.

[colorado tanker]

Some of the land claims of the 13 original States were downright bizarre.

[Pharmboy]

Interesting...I know from my neck o' the woods CT and NY came close to blows about their border. As a matter of fact, to this day you can see a remnant of the old fight: driving north on I-684 while firmly in NY, you see a sign that says "Welcome to Greenwich, CT." A small point of CT juts into NY there and they love to remind the Empire Staters of that.

And BTW, History Channel is running a series on how the states established their borders...I've watched a bit of it and it's pretty good.

I've added Clemenza since I would think he would love this kinda stuff.

[colorado tanker]

One vestige of the western land claims is Case Western Reserve University, which resulted in a merger with Western Reserve University. Connecticut called it’s strip of land west of Pennsylvania its “Western Reserve.” It attempted to hold on to most of the Ohio portion even after the states surrendered their land claims in exchange for federal assumption of their debts, but eventually was forced to give it up. The name still survives in some places.

[Pharmboy]

Ha! Never knew that, and always wondered where "Western Reserve" came from. Thanks for the info.

Here's something else I found relating to what I was referring to before:

I-684 cuts through a corner of Connecticut (1.41 miles) but has no entrances or exits there; it's the only interstate highway that sneaks through a state this way. There's still a "Welcome to Connecticut" sign, and ramps of a New York interchange cross the state line. Paul Schlichtman tells of a 1987 incident where New York police responded to an overturned truck but realized, "hey, we're not in New York!" Connecticut police, who have jurisdiction on that stretch, had to be summoned in.