Posted on 07/05/2010 4:26:23 AM PDT by sodpoodle
One month after the disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman, police reportedly said a landscaper told them the Oregon boy's stepmother tried to hire him to kill her husband, Kaine Horman.
After a month with no trace of Kyron the family still hopes for his safe return.The allegation, first reported in The Oregonian but confirmed by ABC News affiliate KATU-TV in Portland through a source close to the investigation, thickens the cloud of suspicion surrounding Terri Horman, the last person to see Kyron before he went missing on June 4
The landscaper allegedly told police that Terri Horman approached him about killing her husband six or seven months before Kyron disappeared, the sources said.
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Do you believe that the grand jury will hand down an indictment and that the case will go to trial later on this year?
I don't know if you could say the white supremacist presence is massive. Even your article said there were only 20 people at their meeting.
I've met a lot of Russian people from the Portland area. They are mostly churchgoing types, and often extremely good citizens. Sure, there might be some Red Mafia, but it's a very small percentage.
There is some Mexican gang activity in some areas of greater Portland that have a higher Mexican presence. But this also is a drop in the bucket compared with all the nonviolent Mexicans. It's not like there is a big drug war going on.
And as another poster mentioned, I too, am certainly never re-visiting any place in Oregon.
Some relatives of mine just visited a number of locations in Oregon. They had a great time, and like 99.999% of other visitors, they didn't run into any white supremacists, red mafia, or Mexican drug cartels.
BTW wasn’t Hennie Pennie the name of the chicken that said the sky is falling?
Can you please explain further? I had the impression that you were stating that there's lots of crimes perpetrated on children, but I forgot to ask you to explain your comment.
Thank you very much.
There is yet another strange anomoly in this case.
Terri Moulton Horman is depicted as an active connected mom, always busy ONLINE.
But have you noticed, that even at this late date, over two months later, that there is not yet even ONE verified online moniker user id which has been discovered and verified to have belonged to her?
We don’t even know what part of WOW they were most active in, we don’t know what characters they played in World of Warcraft or what any of their characters were named.
We have no idea of any of her monikers on any online mommy-sites or any of the stepparenting and/or teacher discussion forums.
The cops obviously know nothing.
And the online sleuths have obviously been unable to uncover any of her presumably massive online footprint.
Sorry to bother you... but at one point in one of your postings on FR, you've identified yourselves as native Portlanders.
I did a search at google for site:freerepublic.com "I live in Portland" and found you.
As long term freepers, I'm quite curious what your take is on the disappearance of Kyron Horman.
Not many freepers are following the case, but among some of those who are following it, we are amazed, in a negative sense, by seemingly the entire focus of the investigation upon the stepmom and by the apparent lack of any investigation into child predators & pedophilia --- what is your own personal impression of the cops not exploring any of the rumors about the parents being "swingers," about the birth father being an avid (possibly addicted fantasy rolegame) player on WOW, about the properties surround the school and the family home being filled with massive marijuana cultivation, with anonymous remarks, here & there, about the bio dad being a known skin head, about the dad having his facebook photo albums filled with pics of male body builders, etc./etc.?
I'm simply curious what a couple of conservative freepers, who live in Portland think of the tragic disappearance of little Kyron and the seemingly exclusive attention of the LEOs on stepmom Terri Horman, who has a masters degree in education, and her extensive pac of gardening, gym addict, foodie-luvin' gal pal cooks & moms .....
Would you care to share your impressions?
Do you believe that Kyron is alive?
I used to believe that Terri had sent him into the CHILDREN OF THE UNDERGROUND where he is safe & hidden, but not once have I heard them mentioned in regards to this case, so now I'm now beginning to firmly believe that he was abducted by a stranger child predator and murdered and his remains dumped far far far into the ocean, and they no longer exist to be found.
IF you care to share, what say you?
WOW, great links — thanks much!!
Whoa, you are right. That has fallen through the cracks. There’s only been her FB and the emails. There’s been NOTHING about WOW. Whenever there’s a poster taking her side, the rumor mill lashes out claiming it must be her or Dede or a gal pal when it could be anyone on the face of the earth.
Ya know, the more this goes on, the more I suspect it’s NOT Terri who is the deceitful one and the liar. I don’t know who is - Kaine, Desiree, or LE. Maybe that’s why her gal pals are still in her corner. Remember, the gym receptionist, Andrea (who doesn’t have a horse in this race) said Terri was quiet.
Well, I’m taking a stand on this right here. I don’t know if Terri did it or not but I do know that she’s being railroaded. I firmly believe the GJ is nothing but a fishing expedition because the DA knows LE messed up big time. MCSO can’t find their behinds with their hands tied behind their backs and they will do anything now to save face. Until LE can come up with substantial evidence to prove she did it, they are guilty of tearing that family apart and ruining so many people’s lives.
Sadly, those are JUST those who have registered. There more who were supposed to register but didn't, others who weren't required to register, others who were caught but pleaded down to lesser charges, and countless others who have yet to be caught and prosecuted. Poor little Kyron. 70 days and he's still lost.
Here we have techie Kaine Korman of INTEL ------ who only has an innocuous Facebook webpage with photo albums filled with pics of bodybuilders.
He has been described as a devotee of WOW ------ but noone from World of Warcraft has mentioned any of his roleplaying characters or their names.
We don't even know which "quests" were his favorite activities on WOW, we know NOTHING about any of his online gaming partners or other WOW enthusiasts who interacted online with him. AND we have no idea whether any of these online gamers spilled over into real life.
No one from the gym or the body building community has stepped forward to tell us what a wonderful chap that Kaine is. No one from Intel is permitted to say, Bo Peep.
Surely a high fallutin techie from Intel has been active on USENET?????? Surely the webpage for Kyron is not the VERY FIRST WEBPAGE that Kaine Horman has ever created??????????
Just what ARE his interests?
Why were there so many whispers, initially, about swingers, a dominatrix & bondage, crossdressing. gay boyfriends, transexuality, etc/etc/etc????
Am I supposed to seriously believe that ALL of those whispers, rumors & innuendos ONLY came from TMH???
WHAT is so mysterious about the way that he met Terri, that he is horrified to share that with the public???
There are waaaaaaay too many "hmmmms....."
Here's a couple who spends a huge amount of time online, and here we are over TWO MONTHS later and no one has identified any of them as popular sites such as HuffPo or DU or FR or daddy sites or mommy sites or techie mailing lists.
A big ZIP, nada.
I hope that some day in the far future we learn the truth of what has happened, until then, I'll have to presume Kyron was murdered by a pedophile who was familiar with Skyline Elementary School and its immediate environs.
I noticed today that even on WS, there are posters who actually feel secure enough to publically state that they believe that TMH is being railroaded, and at other sites posters have used the word, "framed."
IF Kyron is ever found alive, I wonder how he will feel that the ONE ADULT who spent a huge chunk of time in his life is being accused of having abducted & murdered him????
Grand Juries ARE permitted, in Oregon, to be used as an investigative tool, as opposed to only issuing indictments.
After the truck on the access road fiasco, besides knowing how inaccurate witness accounts are, I have NO faith that they investigated anybody other than Terri --- thanks to Tony & Desi, whom I'm positive she felt uncomfortable around -- she's smart enough to have suspected that they secretly loathed her, that the purpose she served as a human being was being the "House Nanny."
THAT is very curious, isn't it? Why hasn't everyone utterly abandoned her, since Desiree Young announced to the world that she'd always secretly known that Kyron's stepmom was a chronic liar?
Why haven't they ALL bailed out?
McCain, yada yada. That guy has had so much wrong that I refuse to read anything he says. First thing out the gate, he claimed June 4 was the last day of school and he's gone downhill since. Read his comments carefully and you'll see he speculates but never has cold hard facts. CBS has found their golden child and he's milking his 15 minutes, so whatever.
That stunt the LE pulled at the PC a few days ago fell flat when Dave the Lawnmower Dude stated his white truck was on the maintenance road during that time period. Excuse me, but why the heck didn't LE interview him 70 days ago?!?!?!? Who else did they not bother interviewing???
LE is still poo-pooing what the students' witnessed. Tyler, the 7th grader, saw Terri's truck from the gym windows. Someone else early on said it was back there too. The gym is on the opposite side of the school from the maintenance road. So, what, the mystery person did nothing but play musical chairs with the parking spots? And no one knows IF there IS a mystery person. Dave the Lawnmower Dude was in and out of his white pickup while on the maintenance road and he spoke with some of the students who were outside by the field so he could very well be who these witnesses saw. Did LE ever ask the students who else was by the field and if they saw Terri or Kyron or this supposed mystery person? I very much doubt it.
I see nothing wrong with sending an email or texting her friends. It's quicker than a phone call and she was probably busy with LE. I want definite proof SHE wrote the emails and the texts and I want proof what day and time these were sent. Who told her she was being bashed?
Never mind that LE was at the house but the web was bashing her because she wasn't out searching. I don't see anyone bashing Kaine or Desiree for not being out searching. Oh, sure, LE always sends the parents out with the search and rescue crews. Yeah, it's ever so more efficient to have the parents right there to ID the body. NOT! Between LE questioning, Kaine and Desiree might have been texting and emailing and on the phone to family and friends as well. I would be calling Aunt Susie and Grandpa Frank to let them know what was happening rather than let them hear it on the news.
It might very well be the teacher who didn't get the story straight on when the doctor's appointment was. She'd already screwed up because the parent volunteer (Tanner's substitute) knew Kyron was missing and asked her where Kyron was and she said he was probably in the restroom. What sort of teacher doesn't check on a kid who never made it back to the room after being maybe in the restroom or who knows where? What sort of teacher marks a student absent when just a few minutes earlier assumed he was in the restroom? As for Kurtis saying he knew Kyron wasn't at school when his grandma told him Kyron hadn't gotten off the bus, well, again, that most likely goes back to the teacher. When she called roll, I bet she mentioned something about "oh, maybe he's at the doctor's" (but still couldn't be bothered to verify it with Terri or the office or the paperwork Terri supposedly gave her from the doctor's office) and that's why Kurtis knew he had an appointment.
No one has ever said Kyron WASN'T going to the doctor because of "him acting weird" so what was the reason for the appointment? At first, Kaine played his ever worn clueless card and claimed he didn't know about the appointment but later said there was an appointment on the 11th.
The 11th was the last day of school (yo, McCain!). We don't know what time it was but it most likely could have been during school hours since Terri told the teacher. Or it could have been scheduled after school but Terri told her about the appointment because she supposedly gave the teachers paperwork to fill out. Now, any parent knows to never ever schedule anything that would take a kid out of school on the last day. Nope, it just isn't to be done. Kids live for the last day so they can have parties and goof off all day and to bring home all their stuff. Whatever the illness or problem was, it was important enough to pass up cake and ice cream and possible seizures would be that important. I don't mean to come across griping but it's all so frustrating when McCain, the media, and those wacky web sleuths can't keep the known facts straight. It's not helping bring Kyron home.
Seriously? That's a huge about face!
I was thinking last night (an idea from Criminal Minds the other day) that maybe Terri blabbed so much online that one of her FB friends or friends of friends would be sick enough to do this. But I've never seen her FB and you're right (bowing down to you on this), for a computer literate household there's n-o-t-h-i-n-g.
What I do know is that they've been discussing the phrase, "I Miss You Basshunter" and claiming that basshunter is a composer in WOW III.
WhaaaaaaT???
Actually, Basshunter is a SWEDISH DANCE GROUP and "I MISS YOU" is one of their releases:
Swedish DANCE Act release: "I MISS YOU" search results at google.com
Maybe the objectionable video about the fate of Kyron Horman is set to the music of Basshunter???
http://monkeysunmasked.blogspot.com/
I wonder who owner “GW” is??? S/he is certainly unpleased with websites making money this way.....
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111639&page=20
Basically VERY unhappy about the groudskeeper not being interviewed until August 13th.
This might become a "textbook case" of how NOT to conduct an investigation.
I imagine that they put their total trust into the current husband of the exwife of the bio day ---- and that's simply utterly NUTS to rely upon the husband of the woman who lost her marriage to Terri Moulton who was having an affair with her then husband, Kaine.
This is so illogical, it's almost "lol"........
That Utube video is bringing out comments about cults and strange groups and forest rituals in the PNW, and long term posters are sharing that they've thought it was either a peculiar cult or a serial killer who murdered Kyron.
Meantime, did they make sure and check whether Terri had one sugar, or two, when she stopped at Starbucks???
I finally did find and watch the video. Kyron’s family out to his 3rd cousin twice removed should be able to sue the beegeebers out of whoever put this piece of manure together. It has some catchy music going but I didn’t pay enough attention to the words or who wrote or performed it. The video itself is stupid with a capital P. All it is is a bunch of google map satellite and street views along Newberry Rd. and Skyline but is supposedly a documentary of the actual deed and location and that it’s related to cults, human trafficking, child killers, porn, and organ selling. I won’t go into the disgusting details but it suggests to be real time of that day which right there makes it bogus with a capital B. Every human (primates excluded) with half a brain should know google map pictures average about 3 years old.
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