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Kyron Horman's Stepmother Allegedly Tried to Hire Hit Man, Report Says
ABC news, GMA ^ | July 4, 2010 | CLAYTON SANDELL, KRISTIN FRASER and DEAN SCHABNER

Posted on 07/05/2010 4:26:23 AM PDT by sodpoodle

One month after the disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman, police reportedly said a landscaper told them the Oregon boy's stepmother tried to hire him to kill her husband, Kaine Horman.

After a month with no trace of Kyron the family still hopes for his safe return.The allegation, first reported in The Oregonian but confirmed by ABC News affiliate KATU-TV in Portland through a source close to the investigation, thickens the cloud of suspicion surrounding Terri Horman, the last person to see Kyron before he went missing on June 4

The landscaper allegedly told police that Terri Horman approached him about killing her husband six or seven months before Kyron disappeared, the sources said.

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To: wideminded

See #423. In the interview, Kaine and everyone was confused when the project was to be picked up. There was talk on other forums about Terri emailing the teacher asking when she should pick it up. Desiree stated in the interview that Terri emailed her that afternoon that she was emailing the teacher asking when to pick it up so Desiree could see it. It’s also unclear when she took it to school but Kaine and Desiree both agreed the truck was needed. Kaine wasn’t clear if she took it that morning or the day before. There was an oral or written presentation on Thursday and the diorama displays on Friday.

There’s been rumors that she was supposed to pick it up at 10:00. Excuse me, but raise you hand if you’ve ever gotten a request to pick anything up at school in the middle of the day. Parents work! They can’t drop everything to pick something up at 10 in the morning. That’s ridiculous. Many times, especially at this age, teachers like to leave projects up for a couple days so the kids can enjoy them longer. School was to be out the next Friday, so everything would soon be taken home anyway. One would think if there was a specific time that the school would have sent out a note to all the parents with that sort of info on it so there would not be this confusion and Desiree would be waving it in front of all the tv cameras.

I’m still wondering about the talent show. IF Kyron was supposed to be in it (and we don’t know if he was), the teacher would have asked Terri if he was going to be back from the doctor’s in time for the show and that would have verified which Friday the appoint was. Supposedly, Terri told her about the appointment in the auditorium so could that have been during practice for the talent show? Also, if the teacher told the volunteer he might have been in the restroom when the volunteer asked where he was, then why didn’t she check when he didn’t come back?


481 posted on 08/01/2010 8:51:00 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: hennie pennie

Yep, no news doesn’t bode well and my head is spinning over all this crazy stuff. I just keep checking back to see if LE has slapped handcuffs on her yet. I probably won’t be around much either because of family stuff this week. See ya later.


482 posted on 08/01/2010 8:55:40 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: bgill
Hi there, bgill . . . . . say, I have noticed recently much chatter over WHY do Desi & Kaine believe that Kyron is alive, and/or WHY would Terri murder Kyron if it was his dad she is livid with and/or WHY would Terri ever "stash" Kyron?

The logical answer is this: IF the cops seriously intensely do believe the landscaper's allegations, that Terri wanted the landscaper to murder her husband . . . . then it becomes more believable that the cops believe that Terri wanted Kaine's murder to appear to be a suicide.

And the reason for Kaine's suicide would be that he was distraught over his son being missing.

MAYBE the reason that the cops shared so much with Kaine and insisted that he and Baby-K move out is that the cops had actual EVIDENCE that Terri indeed wanted to fake Kaine's murder, and that she planned to have Kyron found AFTER Kaine was dead.

It's a convoluted hypothesis which I've seen bits & pieces of, here & there --- and, as of yet, NO rhyme or reason for any activity by Dede Spicher in the above --- UNLESS of course, the true landscaper was NOT Rudolpho Sanchez, nor the 'Sanchez' already jailed . . . . but maybe the landscaper was Dede, herself - or someone she knew well.

VERY curious.

Anyway, I think that MAYBE this is the scenario presented to Desi & Kaine, and that's why they believe a friend of Terri's is holding him.

And this is why I'm curious about what is the church she attends, as there are many Christians associated with the "Disappear The Children Underground" movement --- I have an easier time believing that some "True Believer" would conceal Kyron, even in light of all the news that has come out about Terri Moulton, whereas one of her friends???? I can't see a general friend or acquaintance not taking Kyron to the police ASAP.

483 posted on 08/02/2010 5:38:34 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: bgill; sodpoodle; All
Apparently there is going to be a long wait, unless/until Kyron is located.

I read at WS this morning that friends of Dede's went on CBS this morning and among the things they mentioned is that Dede was only asked one question by the Grand Jury, to wit: "Are you willing to come back?"

I'm certain that her attorney mentioned something about 4-6 weeks before Dede will appear in front of the Grand Jury again.

So... apparently there is no indictment anytime soon, ya know???

Besideswhich, I seriously cannot imagine that Dede is personally implicated in the disappearance of Kyron Horman. Makes NO sense.

With Terri, one can always make the case about the Cinderella Syndrome regarding the archetypically wicked stepmother's nasty treatment of her stepchildren --- although apparently none of the other school parents or their kids ever saw any such thing.

One other thing I read today is that when the phrase, "Probable Cause" is used, it means that actual evidence exists, it's not just a hunch or common sense or some such, there is clearcut evidence, or else they can't use the phrase, "Probable Cause."

484 posted on 08/02/2010 8:55:14 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: All
Dede's cousin is still very active in the thread at GLP; I noticed this morning that apparently he doesn't know about non-flash mobile news sites - evidentally he's posting & reading at GLP on an iphone.

FOR MOBILE NEWS STORIES, GO HERE:
http://news.google.com/m/

CBS Mobile :::::: TOP NEWS
Friends Speak Out in Kyron Horman Case
NEW YORK, Aug. 2, 2010

http://wap.cbsnews.com/site?sid=cbsnews&pid=sections.detail&catId=TOP&storyId=6736423

.....Police have searched Spicher's home, and she appeared before a grand jury last Monday. Though Spicher isn't talking, her friends are. In an "Early Show" exclusive, Spicher's closest friends have come to her defense. Jaimee MacKinnon, Spicher's friend, told CBS News , "DeDe would never be involved in anything that would hurt anyone." Karen Gjerning, another friend said, "If DeDe felt that Terri had anything to do with this, DeDe would not be standing next to Terri." Spicher's friends also revealed that she moved in with Terri Horman soon after Terri's husband, Kaine, moved out and filed for divorce. Gjerning said, "Because DeDe is the friend that she is she stopped what she was doing and went out and stayed with her for 10 days."

Authorities want to know what the two talked about in those 10 days,.....

______snip______

......Clemens added investigators say they're making progress, but with no tangible evidence, all they can do is question people they suspect have answers.

485 posted on 08/02/2010 9:12:58 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Another look-a-like.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99756934.html


486 posted on 08/02/2010 11:17:46 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: hennie pennie

“Early Show” co-anchor Erica Hill pointed out Spicher’s friends are telling CBS News exclusively that the day Kyron went missing she says in the 90-minute period that’s unaccounted for, she forgot her cell phone and was at work.”

That statement doesn’t make sense no matter how you read it. Maybe the friend wasn’t clear or the reporter didn’t proofread. Did she suddenly think, ooops I forgot my cell at the house and I’ll run home to get it without telling anyone or what? Two people, the property owner and a co-worker, said she wasn’t on the work site for 90 minutes. Does anyone remember the work address and Dede’s address to see what the drive time would be? That particular block of time so very conveniently matches with Terri’s gym time, so where was she? One would think by now that LE has gotten her phone records to prove who called whom and at what time but they’re not talking.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/02/earlyshow/main6736423.shtml


487 posted on 08/02/2010 11:46:50 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: hennie pennie; All

“Spicher’s friends also revealed that she moved in with Terri Horman soon after Terri’s husband, Kaine, moved out and filed for divorce. Gjerning said, “Because DeDe is the friend that she is she stopped what she was doing and went out and stayed with her for 10 days.”

Remember when Kaine said Dede only showed up once every few months? Then pray tell why she moved in for 10 days after Kaine left the house. That’s a lot of commitment for someone who you aren’t that friendly with, huh. Maybe Dede just didn’t go to the house because she didn’t like being around Kaine and if the feeling is mutual that might be why he’s dragging her through the mud.

Oh, blah. There’s that McCain, again. I wrote him off back at his first CBS look-at-me interview. He doesn’t know jack and is less informed than we are.

Speaking of the GJ, supposedly they only asked her if she would be available to come back. Either she went in and immediately took the 5th or LE was getting the GJ to play a game (which should be against the law, also the case had to be the MFH rather than Kyron). If LE wanted to scare Terri, bringing in Dede might make her think that Dede was making a deal and ratting her out. If that was it, then it didn’t work. Seems they tried a similar tactic earlier in wiring the landscaper or something and she knew it was a set up and denied there was a MFH.

Interesting article on the MFH -

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/landscaper_tells_police_terri.html


488 posted on 08/02/2010 12:34:52 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: All

I still haven’t found out when exactly Rudy Sanchez, the illegal alien landscaper, was jailed and on what charges. Was he already in jail before he came up with this story? Did he think this would get him outta jail? Or was he jailed after coming forward? Was he jailed because he’s an illegal or on some other charge? Are they keeping him behind bars because of his legal status or for some other reason? I can understand them wanting him around to pursue the MFH case but if he was an innocent pawn they have no reason to hold him. I mean, lets face it, they let every other illegal out on their own recognizance.


489 posted on 08/02/2010 12:54:32 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: bgill; sodpoodle; MarMema; mockingbyrd; All

Heads UP — According to local news outlets in Portland, Tony Young, Desiree Young and Kaine Horman appeared before a Multnomah County grand jury for the first time Monday, less than a week after Terri Horman’s friend, DeDe Spicher, briefly appeared.


490 posted on 08/02/2010 1:15:05 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: bgill
Rudy was NOT jailed.

There is a man in a Portland jail with the same surname, SANCHEZ, which is a very common surname. He is there on a MILITARY hold -- so I am unsure whether he is an illegal alien or an AWOL.

I forget his first name.

Rudolpho Sanchez owns a landscaping business in Portland and he did some work for Skyline Elementary School --- allegedly where Terri met him when doing volunteer work. Rudolpho advertises his biz in SERVICE MASTER, which is the same website where Dede Spicher advertises her gardening skills. I have NO idea how many 1000s of Portlanders advertise there.

Incidentally, have you checked out GLP today?

VERY interesting, the cousin Tom Jones is attempting to do a dry run, to figure out WHY is Sauvie Island so important. It took him 24 minutes to drive from SI to the Wall of Hope at Skyline elementary school, and then it took him 17 minutes to return to SI.

He's COVERED in burrs & debris - the grasses are anywhere from knee to shoulder high, his account today is quite interesting.

491 posted on 08/02/2010 1:21:28 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: bgill
When the woman called her, she couldn't answer it, as her cellphone was at home.

Evidentally, Dede claims to have worked through the lunch hour; according to a witness, her blue Ford Explorer was there at work the entire time.

This is simply gut instinct.... so pardon me, but there is just NO WAY that gardener & cooking afficianado, gym devotee Dede Spicher did ANYTHING whatsoever to harm Kyron Horman.

I just can't believe it.

And yeah, it's one thing to "drop everything" because one of your friends hysterically claims, "I need you NOW!!!!!! and a whole entirely different matter to help conceal a youngster or assist in the dumping of his remains.

I just can't see it.

492 posted on 08/02/2010 1:27:59 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: bgill
The man in jail is named ANSLEMO Sanchez, there is no reason to even believe that he is a relative of Rudy's --- the surname is common, like "Smith."

Blink on Crime noticed the surname and was the same, and wrote a blog post -- Is? THIS? *the*? landscaper??? -- ever since that blog, it won't go away, but it was a QUESTION, not a statement of fact:

great explanation HERE

493 posted on 08/02/2010 1:44:45 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

You beat me to it. Interesting last paragraph, “It’s unclear what charges the grand jury is pondering, but the only thing all those people - Kaine, Desiree, Tony and DeDe - have in common is Terri Horman and Kyron Horman.” Many thought it was the MFH last week with Dede but maybe not. Or maybe they’re doing both. It’s anyone’s guess. I thought they would have arrested Terri at least on suspicion and THEN taken it to GJ to determine if there was enough evidence to go to trial.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/breakingnews/story/Kaine-Horman-Desiree-and-Tony-Young-called-before/10QkYxWoqkyk5HGxkWOiMg.cspx


494 posted on 08/02/2010 2:08:52 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: hennie pennie

Sanchez - ok

Yeah, I read that at SM. I agree with the monkeys that he’s out for his 15 minutes and doesn’t know anything more than anyone else. Still, good to know about the timing. Depending on traffic, and there shouldn’t be much mid-morning, it’d be about 40 minutes round trip.

Someone commented on Oregon Live (?) that locals say cell phone pings around there are often wrong. I’m harping on that because it’s simply not reliable evidence which can easily be shot down in trial so LE shouldn’t rely on that.


495 posted on 08/02/2010 2:25:23 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: hennie pennie
He's COVERED in burrs & debris - the grasses are anywhere from knee to shoulder high

That means nothing. Does he know he went where the body is buried? Were there burrs and shoulder high grasses back on June 4th? Probably "No" to both questions. OTOH, if "Yes", then Terri would also be covered and that would take a while to clean up and most especially her hair. The gym has a shower... But this is all nothing but supposition.

496 posted on 08/02/2010 3:28:26 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: bgill
IMO, Kaine was supposed to have "committed suicide" weeks ago, in grief about Kyron, and so the person(s) concealing Kyron would have released him somewhere, or maybe that person would play-ACT the Hero at having located Ky safe & alive???

Consequently, .... whomever Kyron is currently living with must be pretty shocked that they still have little Kyron - I don't think this length of time was part of the plan, and obviously it's going to be lots longer, as nobody's going to murder Kaine now, Kaine would never dream of committing suicide on his own, as he has Kiera to raise.

497 posted on 08/02/2010 3:34:23 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: bgill

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to infer that it was important, much less evidentiary. I just think it’s very interesting to read his account.


498 posted on 08/02/2010 4:07:57 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: bgill
I thought that TERRI told the other parents that stuff about the cellphone pings; inotherwords, I wasn't aware that this info came from LE - although I could be mistaken, but surely the LE knows that cellphone pings have an atrocious reputation for utter inaccuracy.

I read here on FR, a couple months back that the cellphone companies don't even know how to reliably charge their customers for usage, they simply guesstimate the bill. THAT is how accurate the cellphone ISN'T, lol.

499 posted on 08/02/2010 4:11:24 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: bgill
Incidentally, I sincerely believe that the STOOOPID stuff that Terri has been alleged to say, has been intentially put forth by her to demonstrate that *she* is tooooooo stupid and CSI-ignorant to have any idea whatsoever in her predddy lidddle head how to commit The Perfect Disappearance of her beloved stepson.

Like when she was protesting to Tony .... "Why, I doo deeclare, that I don't understand one liddle widdle whifF why anybody whomsoever would ever suspect poooR lidddle ol' me --- NO way somebody with her education and her interest in Dexter & CSI hasn't caught on to some basics --- she's TRYING to look d.u.m.b.

LOL

500 posted on 08/02/2010 4:16:21 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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