Posted on 07/05/2010 4:26:23 AM PDT by sodpoodle
One month after the disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman, police reportedly said a landscaper told them the Oregon boy's stepmother tried to hire him to kill her husband, Kaine Horman.
After a month with no trace of Kyron the family still hopes for his safe return.The allegation, first reported in The Oregonian but confirmed by ABC News affiliate KATU-TV in Portland through a source close to the investigation, thickens the cloud of suspicion surrounding Terri Horman, the last person to see Kyron before he went missing on June 4
The landscaper allegedly told police that Terri Horman approached him about killing her husband six or seven months before Kyron disappeared, the sources said.
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I presume that they initially became aware of their mutual presence in the same city, either via a past class reunion, or perhaps from Classmates.com, where at least hundreds of thousands are reconnecting after decades.
Mike Cook didn't just show up on Kaine's doorstep. Becky Owens and he organized their group of high schoolmates to make a website, create & print posters, sell bracelets, coordinate searches, etc/etc/etc -- there was at least half a dozen names that I ran across weeks ago, sorry no link.
AFTER Kaine moved out, then one day, Cook showed up with groceries & cat food for the Terri and OTHERS living in the house -- Dede would have been inside, and I believe Terri's parents were there then, too.
Cook also brought along a large iced cooler with drinks for the press.
BUT...... this was probably the SAME coooler that the GROUP had used in weeks past to provide cold drinks for SAR in the church parking lot.
I've read emails by Becky Owens and at least one other woman asking for donations to provide drink & food to the search teams & volunteers.
Don't get me wrong, I am NOT defended scuzball M.Cook; rather, I wanted to offer a few facts, as I'm sick of seeing it repeated everywhere, WHY WOULD HE SHOW UP FOR TERRI WITH FOOD, when obviously the group of high schoolmates had been running errands for the Horman family for almost a month at that point.
AND rather than "showing up out of the Sky Blue" as chat gossipers have been ranting & raving for weeks, I presume that he called/texted Terri asking what groceries she needed.
Does ANYONE believe that Terri could have entered a grocery store at that time???????
Thanks for the clarification. Too many rumors and not enough facts.
Over at Scared Monkeys there's a poster named Double Decker who owns the website, Crime in the 21st Century" and s/he(?) was as interested as I was that the VANCOUVER police department assisted in the investigations regarding the disappearance of Kyron.
Vancouver, Washington is right across the Columbia River from Portland --- and guess what's right there amongst the city bridges?
Sauvie Island.
Anyway, I suppose that they are thinking about the river and the mud flats; but myself, I am wondering if she had a close confident in Vancouver who is still hiding Kyron.
When I've read the different versions of WHY would TMH abduct her stepson & disappear him? --- the idea that resonates the most with me is that this true crime fanatic who adores Dexter & CSI was particularly entranced by one case of child abduction from a school where the family was awarded 12 million dollars.
I also suspect that she is juvenile enough in her narcissism that SHE was gonna be the Hero and locate Kyron --- but since she's been tailed virtually everywhere, she has had no chance to go and retrieve him and then sue the Portland area school system for negligent security procedures.
I am really angry, just furious about NO SECURITY in those schools -- but I've read dozens upon dozens of threads here at FR about how terrorists want to conduct a terror attack with elementary school children.
OBVIOUSLY there are many thousands of American schools who could care less and have similar utter lack of any security.
It's a CRIME.
I am also curious if there may be some little, OFF THE RADAR, type of domestic violence coalition or organization which hides women & children from abusers --- and that someone in that little waaaaaaay under the radar tiny local group has successfully hid Kyron, and doesn't know how to get him back to mainstream civilization -- that they now understand that they were snookered by WHOMEVER is responsible for the disappearance of Kyron.
Well, first off, isn't he an architect? Doesn't that require grad school? Just what does he do at Intel, has he been working on top secret high clearance contracts for the U.S. government?
Inotherwords, Kaine is employed, and not just at any job, he is a professional with advanced education. And although he is an archetypal GEEK, apparently he still knows how to L@@K good & dress fashionably.
His income is presumably above average, too.
I'd presume that at any bar, any gym, any boardroom, there's bound to be a whole slew of 30-something females who'd be interested in him.
AND, frankly, there are simply waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many online rumors about them both participating in a very large very active adult swingers community --- and I have NO idea whatsoever what the typical background of most male participants is, but I would expect that Kaine would stand out in such surroundings, ya know??? That's my impression, but I have no idea. And frankly, I wonder if Mike Cook and plenty other adults associated with this horrible crime are similarly interconnected for many years as swingers?????
Most children, by age 6, will want to make each set of parents in an extended family situation feel that 'they' are special to that child, and utter meltdowns when leaving the house are COMMON.
Seriously.
And also, remember, how when you were a kid at summer camp, that there always were a few kids that would simply WEEEEEEEEEP on the bus all the way home?
But of course were fine, they are simply hyperemotional.
THAT said, however, since Kyron wanted to be a police detective when he grew up, it is my distint impression that TONY was a far superior hands-on dad, and that if anything, Kyron wanted to be around TONY and hey, Desiree was OkaY, too, LOLOL.
Phyliss, who I've also seen referred to as 'Phillip' works somewhere at Intel; however, I have NO idea if s/he exists; I do not know if Kaine had/has a workplace romance.
I do know that he works at the Intel campus in Hillsboro, suburban Portland, located about 15 minutes from his house.
I have never read of the rumor that Terri didn't remember to get her cellphone out of the Mustang that morning...... however, IF there were even one molecule of truth to this rumor, don't you think that we'd be VERY aware that the PPD had Kaine under microscopic scrutiny at this point???
Also, although I've read accounts of them examining the truck, I've not come across any reportage of forensic examination of the Mustang.
IF there are backdoors in the building that Kaine works in, I presume that video monitoring and guard surveillance is intense throughout the Intel campus.
ALSO.... I've seen mention that the sighting of the Mustang and White Truck on S.I. actually originated from a "PSYCHIC" ---- so it's not even local rumoring, nope it was some online "psychic" that came up with that particular vision; I didn't learn that, though, until several weeks after I first heard about the ALLEGED sighting --- but see, there was NO SIGHTING WHATSOEVER - it was all the vain imaginings of some so-called "psychic."
I've been trying to think of that lady from years back who was in the news who did that sort of thing. I'm drawing a blank what her name is. IIRC, she did extensive background checks on the family to make sure there verifiable problems within the household before she would step in. There's been no 911 calls or restraining orders or anything to indicate there was violence in the house as far as we know so I don't think any group would put themselves on the line just on the word of a parent. That goes back to speculation that Terri had to have help. Sorry, FRiends, but I wouldn't drop everything and rush off from work for a few minutes to cover up a murder you just committed. Nope, I'm still not buying the accomplice on the fly theory. Does anyone know if Terri and Dede routinely worked out at the gym in the mornings or certain days, or did they just show up whenever? We've heard the LE interviewed parents and students at the school but we haven't heard if they interviewed patrons at the gym. The reports are that LE did verify she was there so surely they can verify if Dede was there, too.
Just .... YIKES.
Here's what I found a while back over on SM:
Dede's cousin Tom Jones writes:
"I'm back, Dede has shared texts, and all records, her lawyer says she will return to go before the grand jury, and that he would be surprised if Teri was not arrested.
Now I've heard here that lawyers could not be trusted, I know that during my custody battle for my children my lawyer proved that BS.
I got sole custody.
(conjecture)
If Teri was cold enough to attempt a murder for hire, could she be cold enough to try to rationalize that a griving father who so desperately missed his son and became stricken with grief and morose, that the public could buy a "suicide"
I'm feeling with my WS intuition that Teri disapeared Kyron and was gunna bump the dad with a suicide cover. She decived Dede and used her to get what she needed to get it done.
She could have manipulated Kyron with hey let's play skip school day, I'm going to leave, you walk out the back door and get in the car. We will have a picnic.
Now all that shit is strictly fiction.
We all are free to comeup with our own ideas and scream it out loud to the people of this country, for how much longer I'm not sure.
But the point is every body just needs to calm down and watch what happens now.
Insults and theories are now just wagers on the outcome of this jury."
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1141412/pg47
Hey you2 - Just dropping by to read your analyses;)
While FR was down - I checked some Kyron threads and there was a discussion on LS (?) and *underground railroad* for abused children.
Certainly, a 7 year-old child is much harder to abduct than an infant. If that is what happened - there would have been a lot of pre-planning.
Another point of interest is the $300K Terri used to pay her attorney. Could it have been lottery winnings - or were Kaine and Terri involved in an income producing business that they failed to report? Kaine is claiming that the $300k is marital property.
Carry on;)
Yep. It's a good object lesson to simply come clean, air the "dirty laundry" at once; perhaps they did with the cops, but they haven't with the public --- and thus, the public runs amok with rumor and innuendo and words like 'dominatrix' & 'bondage' & 'swingers.'
Insofar as Terri, anyone else recall that olde line from C-list Westerns, "Pardner, you'll never teach in this here town again..."
IF there is any truth to ANY of the online chatter, then presumably Intel could become LIVID with one particular person???
Here you guys are.
I have been trying to find (thought maybe not) a kyron thread around here for weeks now.
The remote viewing guy is the same clown that is often a guest on Coast to Coast use to be when Art was doing the show. Dane is his last name, sorry mind needs REM, bad.
He is a tin foil nut.
Today our local Portland News is going to have the Investigators from the Sherriff Dept give an update.
The freind of Terry’s is testifying in court by order. The name and court action is not coming to mind. (I am very tired and waiting for my relief care provider so I can go get some sleep).
That ex police guy Jensen who did “Cops” for ahwile has gotten in on the act giving his two cents to the media whenever they want to add to this soap opera drama.
Terri is also asking the court to have Kaine pay her laywer fees..over $300,000.oo now.
I believe that ... since the miserable MSM who is "playing" the game as "team players" according to Kaine's ground rules ... simply NEVER mention the word LANDSCAPER Dede Spicher -- but instead ALWAYS refer to her as a mere gardener or maybe an urban farmer, that it is very possible that DEDE is the Landscaper who participated in the Sting Operation.
I've read in several places that Dede's lawyer says that Dede is NOT on speaking terms with TMH.
Here is a link to the PRINT version of the page you provided, so that if anyone's lurking here on mobile, it's much easier & faster to download, should they care to read it:
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/printthread.php?t=370626&pp=40&page=11
I don't care what, if any, sexual fetishes and/or peculiarities of switch hitting that the adults in Kyron's life happen to have or to NOT have -- I wish that the focus was on locating Kyron.
I am wondering, VERY seriously, if there is a child psychology unit associated with the SCIENTOLOGISTS of Vancouver, Washington???
Maybe Kaine had his son on medication, and TMH was the only person who disagreed and put him in a long term treatment facility run by Scientologists????
They could hide this prescription drug-free Kyron for decades virtually anywhere on the globe.
Yes Ed Dames is the 'kook' who was affectionately nicknamed, "Dr. Doom" by Art Bell, due to the extraordinary negative dark gloomy horrendous future scenarios he so frequently predicts.
LOL - Terri is trying to make KH pay over $300 grand in legal fees thus far????
roflololololololling - you won't find much of a Kaine "fan club" here.
Not that I'm particularly enamoured with any of these adults, but if Kyron is alive, then I hope fervently that he will be able to go live with Tony Young, who he obviously adores and wants to grow up and be just like him, a police detective, and from pics I've seen, it seems that Kyron is happy with Tony Young's wife, too. :-)
We are soooooo hoping that they already found Kyron and that's why so much of this entire case is simply off the charts WEIRD.
So...... evidentally there is NO way they'd accept an unaccompanied young boy.
Sodpoodle.... I've frequently wondered if any of the adults might be making money with pornography - reportedly, the most famous swingers club in Portland is owned by an ex-porn star male.
Just a theory of why the constant chatter about swingers & swinging & bondage & dominatrix & switchhitter & etc don't seem to let up.
Ya know???
Cheaters aren’t my cup of tea. The young buff gold diggers can have him.
****wondered if any of the adults might be making money with pornography****
That might explain sending the 16 year-old boy out of the area. Perhaps someone was worried about a 7 year-old being exposed to the business. However, there were enough extra parents available for Kyron’s care and feeding.
This has been my belief for a long time, too; however ..... where I cannot believe this is based upon Desiree stating, "Kyron is .A.L.I.V.E."
And Desiree telling the perp, "Just drop Kyron off at an isolated phone booth and tell him to dial 911 and tell them his name."
I sense that she is simply waaaaaaaay too sure of this, that Kyron's NOT murdered, that he is alive, that she will see him again -- I believe she has inside information that the cops were able to track Kyron somewhere and believe that he is alive.
Now..... how many of us have heard ANYTHING about any Kyron search ANYWHERE else but within a 4-mile radius of the school?
But when there was a sighting of a Kyron Look-a-like in Texas, and then one in West Virginia, the cops were all over it in SECONDS.
So, it seems to me, that LE knows something about Kyron and his present status that we do not, but that Tony & Desiree DO.
The press conference is scheduled for 2 pm PDST, so it's not for another hour yet.
I'm not even gonna watch it, I'm going to run errands; I'd rather read about it, I just can't bear another one of these, "NO comment" shows again.
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